I agree, but the RFL banned the VR from volunteering information after the fiasco between Leeds and Bradford at Millenium Magic and we were discussing Bentham's performance not Ganson's.

Wigan deserved to win. Simple as.

Who knows what would have happened if decisions during the game had gone the other way ? It's just the way the game goes.

99.99% of RL results go "the right way" i reckon, in that the teams get the result their endeavours deserve. I would even say that about 1980.

This was one of them, and you can read the result in tomorrow's papers.

1. It wasn't an excuse, and is part of why I said he had a decent game and not a good one.
2. He didn't have cause to question the call at the time it was made, and isn't allowed to use the Big Screen to influence his decisions.
3. It has to be both legs clear of the ground. And I'm half convinced that the refs have been told to ignore it again anyway given decisions over the last year or so. They also ignore the bit about calling held if more than one attacking player joins the tackle and that hacks me off no end.
4. He threw it backwards. It doesn't matter what direction it goes after it bounces.

Quote ="hullandbroncos"Cheeky two fingers from tomkins'" No wonder he gets boo'd. And reading this - www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rrior.html - doesn't do him any favours, either.

Quote ="hullandbroncos"Cheeky two fingers from tomkins'" No wonder he gets boo'd. And reading this - www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rrior.html - doesn't do him any favours, either.

Quote ="tommyfromhull"No wonder he gets boo'd. And reading this - www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rrior.html - doesn't do him any favours, either.'" Everybody knows he is a good player but just so arrogant like when he gets a try and keeps looking behind to wind up the opposition no wonder he gets booed and someone will catch him good and proper

Quote ="tommyfromhull"No wonder he gets boo'd. And reading this - www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rrior.html - doesn't do him any favours, either.'" Everybody knows he is a good player but just so arrogant like when he gets a try and keeps looking behind to wind up the opposition no wonder he gets booed and someone will catch him good and proper

1. Saying that you've seen worse not given isn't an excuse? It's either illegal or it isn't. That was.
2. I think we kind of agree here, but given what happened a few tackles later only highlights why we need to let the video ref's 'pipe up' in such instances. Though, tbh, I don't think Burrow made an attempt at the ball in the first place, so it still should have been Leeds' ball.
3. It doesn't have to be both legs at all, once a leg is lifted held is to be called. I agree that the refs must have been told to ignore it. It can be the only explanation for blatant failure to call it.
4. That's the thing, Tomkins didn't pass, it fell from his hand and went forward. He ballsed up a dummy.

The article just shows how much is chasing the fame, he wants to be talked about.

Class act, but such a prat.

They're saying he did it because he was getting ragged by the Leeds fans.

Last week at Crusaders, Tansey was getting ripped to shreds by the Hull fans all game. Did he react badly or flick the Vs? No - because that's not the done thing. He was then warmly applauded at the end of the game.

Cracking final. Leeds slightly hard done too but these things happen. The big call was the Lima second try, from a forward pass. The Tomkins brothers were classless with their 2 fingered salutes, no need.

Quote ="tommyfromhull"No wonder he gets boo'd. And reading this - www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rrior.html - doesn't do him any favours, either.'" I haven't read anything in that interview that isn't true, tbh.

Quote ="tommyfromhull"No wonder he gets boo'd. And reading this - www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyl ... rrior.html - doesn't do him any favours, either.'" I haven't read anything in that interview that isn't true, tbh.

And he's up before the beak for it but says he hasn't a clue what happened:

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I agree. I didn't get all the way to the end, but he seemed pretty accurate. Just some uncomfortable truths, I think.

It still baffles me why McDermott persists with starting him on the bench, they look a much better side with him on.

Opening post, and that was a cracking shout.

Baffling indeed , Although L**ds were under the pump for the first 30 mins , As soon as he come on he caused problems for Wigan.

And the R/L should throw the book at the little brat
there was no need for the V sign ..He is supposed to be a grown man
But let be honest he will get nothing he plays for Wigan
over the season there has been more Wigan plays put on report
even they get let off when facing a charge

Thats why he gets booed....unclassy little $hit.

Does anybody know if this is right? Was told this today. Ganson (or any VR) isn't actually capable of "having a quiet word" in his ear because of the technology, i.e. the ref has to open up the mic. feed.

Let's at least put this one to bed once and for all.

Touch judges are the sole judge of touch and touch in goal, hence the following from The International Laws of the Game:

Section 16.

Paragraph 10 - Accept Touch Judge decision . The Referee shall accept the decision of an official Touch Judge relating to touch and touch in-goal play and to kicks at goal.

Wigan was the better team but when are we going to get at least 1 top class referee for the big occassions who doesn't make such big mistakes it makes our sport in the UK look amateurish.

Also Sam Tomkins what is he doing sticking his fingers up at the leeds supporters that is inciting and should result in a ban.

I doubt he'll get more than a fine, Wigan like Brisbane in Aus are the golden clubs of rugby league and the authorities wont touch them.

He will never be classed as world class in my opinion until he's a game breaker at international level and proves himself in the NRL.

Average final, but in my opinion Super League is not even close to being as good as it was say 3 years ago so i'm not surprised.

McDermott was ingracious in defeat, as was Tomkins in victory, justifies my dislike of both teams. Wigan were way the better team yesterday, nice to see L**ds on the other end of forward passes and cheating though.

Did anyone notice Leeds' players new tactic of trying to slow the game down by trying to pull down the shorts of the Wigan players in the tackle?

sorted

Nowt wrong with it....just a bit of banter.