Been saying this for six weeks.

There seems to be a culture within our board of being unable to make a decision then tenaciously pursue the solution. FFS, our 3 crucial signings, in the 3 positions we have been screaming about for long enough were made after the season started, Furthermore, they were made in each case due to circumstance, rather than deliberate action by the club.

I said somewhere yesterday that Nobby is an average to good coach who can get good squads up the table pronto. Whether he is good enough to make them into a class above achieving successive silverware is doubtful, as illustrated at Wigan. But he's exactly what we need this year and next.

A month ago he'd have signed. Whether he will now with all the alternatives emerging is dubious. What we are witnessing is another example of the failure of our club to identify a problem - even if it's screaming at them in their faces - and secure the right solution for themselves, whatever it takes, at the expense of all others.

That of course, will be the actions of clubs like Leeds, Bradford and now Wigan (for next season). It will be interesting to see the calibre of the people they identify and make sure they get.

Noble? I think he'll go to Leeds. McDermott will either stay as second in command (as was originally intended under Bluey) or come to us. Thanks, the Heths.

All things considered i would like Noble to be our next coach and i would give Agar the job of DOR as i still think he has something to offer the club but unfortunately not head coach.

Average to good? He won everything in the game with Bradford, took Wigan from bottom of the table to one game off a grand final, and got a new, unprepared Crusaders team into the top 8. I'd have said that was 'very good', at least.

I think it has to be a clean sweep this time. New top man and his own choice of backroom staff.

It seems to be a recurring theme every time we win one match out of 3. Just wish we could have had all our losses to date this season at the beginning then we wouldn't be having this debate and Nobby would be at the helm. Surely...

It's funny, isn't it, how people views change as the situation increases in desperateness. When his name was first mooted at the beginning of the season most derided it and said we should be aiming higher, Nobby was "poor" not what we need. Only a World Class coach would do.

Now he's an all-encompassing genius who we must have at all costs before Leeds get their horns in him.

The truth is probably as usual somewhere in the middle. I'm sure Wigan would say he was average compared to McGuire, Crusaders would say good compared to Dixon, and we'd say very good compared to Agar...

Any way, we need him. Now.

I never said that, and I don't recall too many others saying it either. Of course, if 'most' said it, you'll be able to point to several posts containing those sentiments.



I never said that, and I don't recall too many others saying it either. I said he was a 'very good' coach who could get us to the level where we are able to compete with the top teams. I even expressed some reservation as to whether he was the man to lead us to silverware.



You don't say? Like I (and several others) have said all along. That you imagined otherwise doesn't change that.



Wigan would say average? I don't think so. He laid the groundwork for what McGuire is achieving now. If you don't believe me, ask McGuire. He lead Crusaders to their first ever top 8 finish and they've dropped right back since he left. I think they might just hold him in high regard, too.



Him, or someone like him, yes.

I've changed my avatar back, in full support of this sentiment.

Whichever way you slice it,this season is a no,no.The only good thing being there is no relegation,otherwise we would be crapping ourselves.

I really wish there was relegation then then board would do something now instead of waiting until Agars contract expires

You do agree it's time for him to go though don't you wolfs?

There's nothing to stop them coming out and admitting things are unacceptable and need to improve though. It's the fact they're seemingly ignoring it that annoys the fans. Didn't the SKY commentators say that hudgell had written a piece to that effect in the dobbins programme for the leeds match?

just watched the "highlights"

jesus christ we are bad

Sad thing is it's important to them for all the wrong reasons

I think people are saying that the board would see it as vindication for keeping agar, not that they believe agar should stay just for winning the derby

You think noble would work under agar?

Well,as no other ferker is,I guess the answer is ,no.

how is a noble or hasler gunna make the likes of horne yeaman whiting long fitz dowes radford the list is endless any better ? this squad 5 years ago would have won sl...unfortunatly we are 5 years too late

Fair comment, maybe they need to change their spin to keep more fans happy - if that's possible any more. But if Hudge did say those things it doesn't mean they're doing more than our board is behind the scenes to rectify things...however you're completely right at least it gives them some semblance of credibility that they're in step with the fans and that they're all in it together.

how would maguire take a wigan side that finished mid table for a few yyears with a squad thats not really any better then yours to dominant champions, same said with nathan brown at hudds.

better players at those clubs mate

Lordy - I never attributed either statement to either of us. I was speaking generally using extremes to illustrate the point. There is no doubt, though, that reaction when Nobles name was first mentioned a couple on months ago was less than lukewarm. It isn't now.

From what I see we agree on our views of Noble, his achievements over the last few years and what he can offer us. No animosity needed then.

When Smith went to Wire he assumed the title Director of Coaching. Lowes retained his of First Team Coach.

Something similar could be engineered at Hull, surely, to keep everyone happy?