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| Quote ="Kosh"Will you be apologising to Ogre if it turns out he did nothing wrong?'"
No he should not have reacted whatsoever!...he gets paid to play rugby for Hull FC if he has a problem with the fans he should go through the correct channels and not react on the pitch in full view!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why wasn't it? It was 10-10 for quite a while. Even at 14-10 we had a shot.'"
We can't kill games when we need to, everyone knew Hudds would find another gear to go on to win. We was probably at our peak, lots of effort but no brains.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"So if Orge has flicked the V's again I am going on pure speculation here, but IF he has. It isn't acceptable. End of.
As I say if it would have being one of the lesser players doing this then they would be an uproar.
I have no problem with orge telling the fans he thinks the banner should be put down or if later in the week he questioned the fans support. However to flick the V's is completely out of order.'"
Exactly, if Radford or Dowes had done it they'd be slaughtered.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"A token punishment for inciting a pitch invasion, really?
And no I honestly wasn't worried, I didn't think the result was ever in doubt.'"
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| Quote ="RichieFC86"Never saw him flick the V's to be honest. Yea he was waving his arms, but he was telling them to take the banner down. Obviously wasn't happy at all but the fans chanting 'one Mark O'Meeley' (?) obviously agreed with him. =#0000FFMaybe reading into his reaction too much but would this suggest the roumors of problems between the players and coach are wrong?'"
The camp's supposedly split on the coach, this just gives a hint as to which way O'Meley is leaning.
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| And hkr have lost to catalans proof were the worst in the league! Mass suicide anyone?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"8 of those games were last season so we must have won plenty too cos we finished 6th!!!!!!
Also I am not kidding, there will have been plenty wanting us lose today.'"
I can see where your coming from, it just happens that our bad run was at the back end of last season which is unlucky when people come out with the stats from the last 11 games.
Im all for Agar getting sacked as i just don't think we'll push to become a top 4 club with him in charge, i've felt that way since he took over.
The thing that gets on my nerves is idiots holding these signs up, thats not going to help anyone. If you don't like it, don't go, thats what im doing.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"It's not just the fact we have lost - it's the way we've lost them too. We've shown little improvement from last year IMO and if anything are worse. Leeds always looked like winning against us, with 4 of their key players out, then went the week after and got beat at home by Harlequins. Hull KR, after beating us, lost their next team games (albeit one against Wire) yet cut through us at will. We've learnt no lessons from last year, we still can't back up, we still can't play the ball quickly and we still don't have halves who control the game.'"
Some good points, none of which I can really argue with. I have said countless times I would replace Agar with a better coach, either Noble or someone from the NRL.
My point is last season Agar was challenged by the board to get us back in the playoffs and we finsihed 6th, so he did what was asked of him. This season the board will want top 6 or even top 4 I would guess and whilst it has started badly the board will give Agar some more time, which imo is right.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"And hkr have lost to catalans proof were the worst in the league! Mass suicide anyone?'"
Morgs will sort it when he gets his scrum half back.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"No he should not have reacted whatsoever!...he gets paid to play rugby for Hull FC if he has a problem with the fans he should go through the correct channels and not react on the pitch in full view!'"
According to reports on here he motioned for the banner to be taken down and received support from fans when he did so. That suggests that he did nothing too offensive.
So if you don't want him to react to the fans is it OK if he doesn't bother acknowledging them when they cheer the side on?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Some good points, none of which I can really argue with. I have said countless times I would replace Agar with a better coach, either Noble or someone from the NRL.
My point is last season Agar was challenged by the board to get us back in the playoffs and we finsihed 6th, so he did what was asked of him. This season the board will want top 6 or even top 4 I would guess and whilst it has started badly the board will give Agar some more time, which imo is right.'"
Agreed.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"I can see where your coming from, it just happens that our bad run was at the back end of last season which is unlucky when people come out with the stats from the last 11 games.
Im all for Agar getting sacked as i just don't think we'll push to become a top 4 club with him in charge, i've felt that way since he took over.
The thing that gets on my nerves is idiots holding these signs up, thats not going to help anyone. If you don't like it, don't go, thats what im doing.'"
Good post, see my last one and it says the same thing except I still got my pass. If we want to challenge then we need a new coach but I won't be wailing and moaning and overracting. It will happen when it happens.
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| Quote ="Kosh"According to reports on here he motioned for the banner to be taken down and received support from fans when he did so. That suggests that he did nothing too offensive.
[uSo if you don't want him to react to the fans is it OK if he doesn't bother acknowledging them when they cheer the side on?[/u'"
...whatever!
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| Quote ="Kosh"So if you don't want him to react to the fans is it OK if he doesn't bother acknowledging them when they cheer the side on?'"
Best fans in the world Hull fans.
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| I give up. As long as fans continue to make excuses nothing will change. If people aren't convinced that Agar simply isn't good enough by now they never will be. Ffs he was playing Tickle at prop today rather than giving Moa any game time. That just says it all.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"icon_rolleyes.gif ...whatever!'"
Was you on the high school debating team?
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| Most of the fans were having a go at the head the balls with the banner so only agreeing with the majority was Ogre
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I give up. As long as fans continue to make excuses nothing will change. If people aren't convinced that Agar simply isn't good enough by now they never will be. Ffs he was playing Tickle at prop today rather than giving Moa any game time. That just says it all.'"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I give up. As long as fans continue to make excuses nothing will change. If people aren't convinced that Agar simply isn't good enough by now they never will be. Ffs he was playing Tickle at prop today rather than giving Moa any game time. That just says it all.'"
Totally agree...broken records!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Some good points, none of which I can really argue with. I have said countless times I would replace Agar with a better coach, either Noble or someone from the NRL.
My point is last season Agar was challenged by the board to get us back in the playoffs and we finsihed 6th, so he did what was asked of him. This season the board will want top 6 or even top 4 I would guess and whilst it has started badly the board will give Agar some more time, which imo is right.'"
I'd like him to go now as I don't think we're going to show any improvement and so don't think we need to wait.
I'm not going to get all hysterical about it if it takes a few more weeks though.
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| Quote ="Kosh"According to reports on here he motioned for the banner to be taken down and received support from fans when he did so. That suggests that he did nothing too offensive.
So if you don't want him to react to the fans is it OK if he doesn't bother acknowledging them when they cheer the side on?'"
There's no point, people like to jump in with both feet before they have the facts. When these people make themselves look stupid by doing so, I find it better to just laugh at them rather than question because the try to turn it into an anti-Agar thread when they get found out.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I give up. As long as fans continue to make excuses nothing will change. If people aren't convinced that Agar simply isn't good enough by now they never will be. Ffs he was playing Tickle at prop today rather than giving Moa any game time. That just says it all.'"
Everybody agrees.
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| I think the message will be clear friday night! No banners required, the attendance will show what the supporters think!
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Its up to our "stars" to stand up and be counted, not trying to split the squad up. The only ones who are standing up are the likes of Shrek, Fitz, Whiting and Briscoe. The rest are to bothered about drama away from the game and only think about Hull FC on game days.'"
I know it's easy to lay the blame for anything and everything with Agar at the moment, but TBH it should fall within a coach's remit to deal with this kind of thing if it is indeed the case. Player's do still have responsibility for themselves and should be more driven without needing to be prodded, but if there's a lack of interest from some it's then necessary for the coach to address that. Act like kids, get treated like kids, comes to mind.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"There's no point, people like to jump in with both feet before they have the facts. When these people make themselves look stupid by doing so, I find it better to just laugh at them rather than question because the try to turn it into an anti-Agar thread when they get found out.'"
A bit like your thread after the derby in cardiff then eh ?
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