I realise he isn't totally ready but there's not much point promoting him to first team if we don't give him any game time. i'd like to see him get a few off the bench at least

FWIW I reckon Agar must rate Williams more than Moore hence why we didn't sign him

think you'll find he was playing for widnes at the time...starting 7 infact..

but young players get first team contracts sometimes becuase of there potential and getting them in a full time enviroment training on a day to day basis ect but dosent mean they should play players like williams and crooks arnt physically and defensivley ready yet but potentially yeh could become good super league players, at this moment in time im 99% sure that gareth moore is more ready and developed then williams to provide good backup now at first yeh i understand maybe not signing him because we had nicklas but now with his season long injury then surley hes worth a 1 year deal

With our h/backs I reckon the kid will get a shot

Similar to Moore then?

We didn't [iknow[/i Berrigan was going to leave in December and even if we [isuspected[/i it we couldn't actually sign anyone until after he'd gone.

We didn't know we were going to have to sack Tansey a week before the start of the season.

The club can however be criticised for failing to sign a back-up half, which was the number one priority at the end of last season.

Last time I said it we signed someone..........


No ones coming

Too be honest I can see why you are feeling frustrated and I am to a certain extent....but I do think that the timing of Berrigan's departure and the timing of Tansey's latest episode has been unfortunate, the club have had no choice but to react to it.

That said I don't want any reactive recruitment next year, I want to have faith in our club to be identifying/approaching targets for 2012 now, alongside any outstanding recruitment for this year.

Especially as the exchange rate situation can improve dramatically over the next twelve months. Forward, strategic thinking is what we need, how we use our 2012 quota spots will go along way to determining our chances of silverware over the next five years IMO.

wasn't Long playing stand off at the time? will have to recheck the end of season video just to confirm

Obst is is Wakeys squad for the weekend.

Jeffries isn't though........

"Hull have been rebuffed in an approach to the administrators to sign Sam Obst, a long-serving Australian scrum-half but Kear is unlikely to prevent the Fijian centre Daryl Millard taking up a long-term contract offer from the Catalans Dragons, especially as that will clear a place on Wakefield's overseas quota allowing him to sign the former Canterbury prop Jarrad Hickey." www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/fe ... ford-leeds

"Hull have been rebuffed in an approach to the administrators to sign Sam Obst, a long-serving Australian scrum-half but Kear is unlikely to prevent the Fijian centre Daryl Millard taking up a long-term contract offer from the Catalans Dragons, especially as that will clear a place on Wakefield's overseas quota allowing him to sign the former Canterbury prop Jarrad Hickey." www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/fe ... ford-leeds

Christ, when will we get bl00dy H/back cover??

We won't, why else would we upgrade Williams?

Maybe because Nicklas is out for the season with a bad injury the club thought it would be good development for Williams being involved with the first team squad, if he develops well maybe he will be rewarded with a longer deal.

But Williams wasn't deemed good enough 6 weeks ago, I don't know, it just seems fairly obvious to me, they won't have cancelled Nicklas' contract.

John Clarke not in the Warrington squad, no news of any injury, be happy with him on loan, better than Obst IMO.

No but they could de-register him so he doesn't count on the cap.

Yeah id take him too

I doubt the money Nicklas is on would make much difference in the greater scheme of things.

Isn't this his testimonial year!?

Every penny counts as far as the cap is concerned. The fact Nicklas now doesn't count on the cap means we can bring Williams in for no extra cost on the cap.

I like Obst, always have. Has always been a thorn in our side even during his days at Whitehaven, plus he can cover the hooking and half back role without a problem.

Thats great, as long as we play you either week.

I just prefer Clarke and he would suit Houghton more.

Obst IMO is a decent hooker but an average halfback.

Very under rated player , always causes most teams a headache or two ...we could do a lot worse