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| Quote ="JedRust"I would think we have near on 250k to spend, but i doubt we will get anybody in any time soon!'"
Lets hope we can have a bit of luck without any injurys to deal with.The first 17 looks very good and i hope it stays that way until we can bring in some new faces.
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i suppose its which leeds fans you read.........tis only opinions tho either way
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i suppose its which leeds fans you read.........tis only opinions tho either way
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| Quote ="garry brindley"No of course not, I mean it's not as if a head coach should take any responsibility for how his signing's work out at the club is it? I mean that would be just stupid.
If you want to pretend Tansey wasn't let go from Leeds at least in part because of his off-field antics and had an unblemished reputation within the game before signing for us then that's up to you.'"
The way debate works is that the person making the claim has to provide the evidence. You claim that Tansey was a known troublemaker before we signed him. You further claim that Leeds shipped him to Aus partly because of this. Your entire argument for Agar being somehow at fault rests on these two claims, for which you haven't provided a single shred of evidence.
If you want to pretend that your post isn't a desperate attempt to blame Agar for something that was entirely the fault of Tansey then you go right ahead. Don't think you'll fool many people though.
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| Right decision made..move on now,right weekend here we come!!
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| Quote ="AJK"Right decision made..move on now,right weekend here we come!!'"
this will roll on for ages..no doubt, especially if were turd early in the season...
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"i suppose its which leeds fans you read.........tis only opinions tho either way'"
beat me to it...
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That tells us what exactly
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That tells us what exactly
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| Quote ="Bal"Your boss is now responsible for all of your actions? Bizarre. Perhaps employers should be required to have you tagged and held in a cell between work related business?
I'm have my reservations about Agar, and I'm the first to pipe up when people say poor performance on the field is nothing to do with the coach, but to put any blame on him for Tansey behavior is just plain daft. Agar tried to manage him with the previous disaplinarys, now he has had to write him off and in doing so has sent a clear message to everybody else.'"
If a manager recruits someone to fulfill a role and it turns out that they aren't up to it then the boss has to take some of the responsibility for getting that decision wrong, especially if it leads to a weakening of the workforce that can't be instantly corrected. If you think that's 'bizarre' or 'plain daft' then good for you.
It was one thing when Agar was blaming the poor results in 2009 on the 'bad apples' at the club that weren't his signings. The 'bad apple' in this case is a player that Agar identified and brought to the club, now while he has done the right thing in getting rid of him, I don't think it will wash for him to then use Tansey's departure as an excuse later in the season as it was a problem that was partly of his own making.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"played all his games at either fb or wing so far for wakey,but if he plays centre too,then that's even better.'"
He played at centre for part of last year, trust me I was there! Would be a good signing for any team and will be in superleague next year whether Wakey are or not.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"i honstly belive were the man city of superleague....well, as far as available salary cap goes anyways'"
More like Newcastle post Andy Carroll. All this money to spend and no-one available to spend it on .
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| Quote ="garry brindley"If a manager recruits someone to fulfill a role and it turns out that they aren't up to it then the boss has to take some of the responsibility for getting that decision wrong, especially if it leads to a weakening of the workforce that can't be instantly corrected. If you think that's 'bizarre' or 'plain daft' then good for you.
It was one thing when Agar was blaming the poor results in 2009 on the 'bad apples' at the club that weren't his signings. The 'bad apple' in this case is a player that Agar identified and brought to the club, now while he has done the right thing in getting rid of him, I don't think it will wash for him to then use Tansey's departure as an excuse later in the season as it was a problem that was partly of his own making.'"
Okay - let's say you're right and it was his fault. What should his next step have been? Sack him or keep him? My guess is... it doesn't matter - he's wrong anyway!
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"this will roll on for ages..no doubt, especially if were turd early in the season...'"
Fair one, even more so if our fullback has a nightmare on sunday..
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| Quote ="garry brindley"If a manager recruits someone to fulfill a role and it turns out that they aren't up to it then the boss has to take some of the responsibility for getting that decision wrong, especially if it leads to a weakening of the workforce that can't be instantly corrected. If you think that's 'bizarre' or 'plain daft' then good for you.
It was one thing when Agar was blaming the poor results in 2009 on the 'bad apples' at the club that weren't his signings. The 'bad apple' in this case is a player that Agar identified and brought to the club, now while he has done the right thing in getting rid of him, I don't think it will wash for him to then use Tansey's departure as an excuse later in the season as it was a problem that was partly of his own making.'"
What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
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Correct.
Some things are clearly Blacklock's fault.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
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particularly this time. I mean, although he has been blamed for things unfairly before, this one is definitely down to Blacklock.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Correct.
Some things are clearly Blacklock's fault.'"
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| the wheels are turning i expect news on new squad players by weekend (TBH I thought by last weekend )
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| Quote ="Kosh"Correct.
Some things are clearly Blacklock's fault.'"
Wish we had Blacklock now
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| Quote ="downtheante"Okay - let's say you're right and it was his fault. What should his next step have been? Sack him or keep him? My guess is... it doesn't matter - he's wrong anyway!'"
I didn't say it was Agar's fault I said he had to take some of the responsibility (it's clearly Tansey's fault far more than anyone elses).
Most signings are a gamble in one form or another and Agar took one when signing Tansey because of his reputation, it was probably a fair enough gamble to take but as it's turned out it hasn't paid off and he was quite rightly sacked.
All I've said is I sincerely hope that if and when results are going badly, Agar doesn't bring Tansey's departure up as an excuse as if it were something entirely out of his hands.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"What a load of boll0x!!....You need to get a grip because you cannot blame Agar for everything
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I haven't half missed Berrigan's Fishwife
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| Quote ="garry brindley"If a manager recruits someone to fulfill a role and it turns out that they aren't up to it '"
Which he didn't. Jordon Tansey was employed as a Rugby League player, he played Rugby League.
Quote then the boss has to take some of the responsibility for getting that decision wrong, especially if it leads to a weakening of the workforce that can't be instantly corrected. If you think that's 'bizarre' or 'plain daft' then good for you.'"
If my boss employed me and I couldn't do my job, as in perform the day to day tasks required of me, then yes, if all information was truthly provided by the delegate and references, then your indeed right. My boss isn't however resposible, for example, if I go out, get my self arrested and thrown into prision.
Agar has followed the disaplinary process, same as you or me would have a disaplinary process in our jobs, and in conclusion to that has taken the decision to get rid of the offending player - a decision which is spot on.
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| Quote ="Bal"Which he didn't. Jordon Tansey was employed as a Rugby League player, he played Rugby League.
If my boss employed me and I couldn't do my job, as in perform the day to day tasks required of me, then yes, if all information was truthly provided by the delegate and referenced, then your indeed right. My boss isn't however resposible if I go out, get my self arrested and thrown into prision.'"
Does your boss know about this? I hope they don't post on here.
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| Quote ="downtheante"Does your boss know about this? I hope they don't post on here.'"
Fortunately, I work at the police station so they can't accuse me of skipping work - in fact, I claim that I'm enthusiastic and should be given a pay increase.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"motu tony anyone??
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| Quote ="Bal"Fortunately, I work at the police station so they can't accuse me of skipping work - in fact, I claim that I'm enthusiastic and should be given a pay increase.
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I meant the being arrested part which now seems less likely
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