Preferably, but just a run in the centres would do. I still have my doubts about the kid but he needs to be given a shot and also needs some decent ball to work with.

He looks far more comfortable on the left rather than the right. If Yeamo is back next week i'd play him on the right and leave Hall to play on the left.

He has played loads of games at centre for Hull including a fair few this year. IMO Whiting is a better centre but has played wing to accomodate Hall. Don't get me wrong I long for him to improve and make the grade but it's the same mistakes week in week out in defence which frankly stand out like a sore thumb.

How many of his games at centre for FC have been on the left out of interest?

How many tries did he cost us last night?

Er, he hasn't. That's my point. The best players have very few poor games, Hall does not.



His defence was very shaky - again - and he bombed a decent scoring opportunity because he was looking at the defender rather than the ball he should have been catching. At the moment, his negative aspects outweigh the positive ones.

That's not an excuse for his defence.



I haven't seen the replay of their last try, but from what I saw live he appeared to turn his back on the man with the ball early in the move. Had he made the tackle, they might not have scored.

I agree,Craig needs to read the game better and not leave his line so exposed.

His defence wasnt shaky at all....as for that pass.....looked to me as though he was trying to pass it in one movement...people just want to see what they want with Hall

I think the left centre thing is a bit of a red herring we have little evidence that he would be markedly better on the left. I would swap him with Yeaman to try though as you suggest.

As for last night he didn't cost us any tries. But surely you cant deny that his decision making is poor defensively? If the sliding defence has failed him he has no chance but there have been many occasions where he is in no man's land waving his arms about. He cost us against Rovers with a simple one on one take your man situation and some of the Wigan tries were his fault and his alone. I remember back at the Millenium stadium when we played Rovers - one of his first games - he did the same there. The point being that there has been little improvement since then.

I said a while back that he reminded me of Steve Evans. Not the best defensively but could score tries for fun. Steve Evans was an international however and Hall has a long way to go to reach that standard. A long long way.

We'll have to differ there. He shot the line a number of times when he didn't need to and was arguably at fault for their last try.



Apparently so.

He actually followed the man with the ball and got him...if anytthing...Briscoe had gone wandering again.

After turning his back and letting him through the gap. Even if it happened as you say, he made a few poor decisions in defence that a better side would have punished.

Erm yes

still knew Hally would get the blame for something win lose or draw

exactly and its seems like almost every week theres a thread about him, or there appears to be and thats whats so annoying. He is young he is still learning, yet some people cant help but slate him week in week out,

This annoys me about the whole Hall thing, he's been first team for 4 years now.

so what he is STILL LEARNING HIS TRADE, some of the so called expereinced players make cock ups and dont get half as much slating as Hally does.

When did i use it as an excuse for his poor defensive reads?

I watched the game again today i dont think he was at fault.

4 years is more than enough time IMO. He's not improved enough defensively.

There are 2 parts to defending for me.

1. Actually making the tackle. Hall appears to be more comfortable on the left hand side and looks more and more solid. Still makes some 'wafting arms' attempts but in general getting better.
2. Reading the play and making the right call. He is incredibly weak in this area and hasnt shown an improvement. He does need to stop going for the intercepts and stop ball watching too.

I believe that last year both aspects were weak and he's done a hell of a lot of work on point 1. Maybe now he will focus a little on the mental aspect of defence in point 2.

in your opinion, thats YOUR opinion, thats what forums are for OPINIONS and mine is he is young he is STILL LEARNING, and some people need to leave the poor kid alone, its

every week seeing the same Hall thread.

He needs to man up, not be wrapped in cotton wool.

Dont think manning up is the problem. His mental reading of the game and his ability to watch his runner and not the ball carrier is the issue.

give up now youre being stupid with that comments, IMO and i said MY OPINION, he is man enough to be playing rugby league in the first place,

That's bollox. He's never going to be the best defender in the world but technique can be improved massively which is hall's issue rather than lack of bottle.

He epitomises pretty much every young player at Hull since mcrae left. A succession of below average coaches have failed to fulfil teh promise any of our young players have shown

Any of them except Rich Whiting.