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| Quote ="forevafaithful"what a load of tosh...sack agar now...yeah so it was him who gave away the 15 penalties??? was it agar that for the first time yeaman actually makes a pass agar made it go into touch????was it agar that couldnt keep broughton from scoring twice in the same place???.......NAHHHHHHHHH it was the pi$$ poor effort from the players who probably thought they could just turn up and win.......stop talking shiiite and support your team through thick and thin...agar will stay and you know it ....SIMPLES'"
We are supporting our team that's why the crowds are up this year after 2 e seasons under this coach. However many of us realise that these blips you talk of have happened several times to often and the common denominator is Agar. Time for him to go.
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| Quote ="UllFC"wow, at this rate of progress (2nd bottom in 08, 3rd bottom in 09) we might have hit the dizzy heights of of the playoffs by the end of the decade
the reason we are 'frustrating' is because we have the quality players, but not the coach to get the best out of them.'"
Like I said, the season is only a quarter old, if that!!
Hull are 5th, not 3rd bottom. Even a primary School child can see the League table is showing Hull in a much improved position. Having seen you 6 times this year I would put my house and business up for a bet saying Hull will not finish 3rd bottom!!
The play off's would be an improvement. A high end play off finish (3rd to 5th) would be a very good season I reckon. I do not see why players like Tansey, Turner, Houghton, Hall or Tickle can be classed as any higher in quality to players at Warrington, Leeds, Saints, Hudds, Wigan or Rovers?
Therefore competing with those sides for League position is to be expected and that is exactly what you are doing. Those sides have also lost to lower ranked sides and have had bad days this season too (maybe not Wigan).
Even with the players you have and all their experience it was never gonna happen in the first ten games!!
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"couldnt understand why Hall was dropped again, '"
Agar does not rate Craig Hall, he told a RLW journalist last year.
Personally, i think Craig is the best centre at the club.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Like I said, the season is only a quarter old, if that!!
Hull are 5th, not 3rd bottom. Even a primary School child can see the League table is showing Hull in a much improved position. Having seen you 6 times this year I would put my house and business up for a bet saying Hull will not finish 3rd bottom!!
The play off's would be an improvement. A high end play off finish (3rd to 5th) would be a very good season I reckon. I do not see why players like Tansey, Turner, Houghton, Hall or Tickle can be classed as any higher in quality to players at Warrington, Leeds, Saints, Hudds, Wigan or Rovers?
Therefore competing with those sides for League position is to be expected and that is exactly what you are doing. Those sides have also lost to lower ranked sides and have had bad days this season too (maybe not Wigan).
Even with the players you have and all their experience it was never gonna happen in the first ten games!!'"
its not the fact we've lost a few games that is the issue, its the fact we've turned out the same performances as 2008/2009 in these defeats, the same plodding, clueless, uninspired and error strewn performances. Yet we've been constantly told by the club to wait for 2010 and the new players and our form would improve (which we have done, and shown our loyalty with record pass sales) Yet we still keep playing like that, so the blame must lie with Agar.
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| Quote ="UllFC"its not the fact we've lost a few games that is the issue, its the fact we've turned out the same performances as 2008/2009 in these defeats, the same plodding, clueless, uninspired and error strewn performances. Yet we've been constantly told by the club to wait for 2010 and the new players and our form would improve (which we have done, and shown our loyalty with record pass sales) Yet we still keep playing like that, so the blame must lie with Agar.'"
In a way I agree, I have seen that rubbish turned out thios season. But, I have also seen little glimpses of Berrigan doing more than previous seasons, and Long and Horne forming a partnership that will do ok and Fitzgibbon, Luaki and one or two others have impressed too.
I just dont think it is all doom and gloom for Hull. If the same sort of display is produced against Rovers then you have to wonder a little more but I honestly believe they will come out and turn in a brilliant performance.
That is in the future though and I can understand that for some tonight was a bridge too far.
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| 9 players kicked out last season and we can still throw out performances from last year . Agar has to go now!
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| Quote ="B0NES"9 players kicked out last season and we can still throw out performances from last year . Agar has to go now!'"
KATH PLEASE READ THIS POST !!! THATS THE REALITY OF WHERE FC ARE!!!
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| Quote ="UllFC"because clearly Hall isn't one of Agar's favourites. I could understand why he was dropped after his performance at Wigan...but there was no reason he coulden't have come back tonight.
I'm not blaming Lyne, he is 17 and it was his debut, but Mcrae is no mug and would have instructed Salford to target him. Yet when the opposition picks players who are young or out of position etc Agar (who has in the past admitted he doesn't watch videos of the opposition) never adapts our tactics to hit their weak spots.'"
The weakest part of our defence tonight was not Lyne, but Yeamon and Briscoe's side. Lyne's error for the try was covering yet another break on that side of the pitch.
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| AGAR OUT, SIMPLES
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| For me, it is just inexcusable that our 17 tonight can play like that and lose to a Salford side that is clearly lacking in quality and is hardly good enough to beat anyone.
Agar wanted time to show what he could do with HIS squad and he has now had 8 games and that is clearly enough games to show that he is simply not good enough to take us to where we want to be. I'm sure he is doing his best but we need a lot more and the time has come to tell him, if he can't do the decent thing himself, that his abilities as a coach a more suitable for a much smaller club than ours. Whether that be a side like Salford or Wakefield or perhaps one of the bigger NL1 clubs.
Do the honourable thing Mr Agar and fall on your sword !!!!!
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| stop messing about
get rid of agar
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| total guff!
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| sack him now
fitzgibbon, o'meley, berrigan all state of origin all australia test players
yeaman, briscoe, long all great britain internationals
manu, lauaki, moa all south sea internationals
are they really going to take notice of some bloke whos played right centre for dewsbury????????
are they fook
wake up and smell the coffee
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| why? are you an idiot as well?
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| One result and you want rid? It's you who might be the fool! I'm totally neutral on this issue! You need to get a grip. you look like a massive prick to be honest
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| he shouldve gone 30 months ago, do you really think he would take us to the grand final? will he foookk, get in the real world
will you still be singing his praises if hull lose on good friday?
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| Haha, seriously?
We have no one asking for McClennans head and we are only 2 wins off bottom
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| I was asking for his head long before the season started - he is a decent bloke but coach??? He wanted to build a team, his team and prove everyone wrong - so far he has proved nothing! apart from he has no plan B!
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| agar will not be sacked, pointless calling for his head, look at the results against saints, hudds, bradford and cas, all teams we lost to last season in the corrosponding fixtures, so it shows improvement, as dissapointing as today was, 5 from 8 would have been a reasonable target.
i don't expect agar to have his contract renewed at the end of this season though, i think rule and co have seen what happens when clubs like wigan and hudds have brought good coaches in and transformed average players into good teams and hopefully we will follow suit
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| IMO you will beat Hull KR with a bit to spare next week. They arent playing that well at the moment and struggled to beat us last week. The big test of where you are will be the 2 weeks against us when we have the majority of our players back (hopefully) minus Donald and Watkins.
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| On my hols in Oz I had the pleasure of meeting Matty Head. We had a few beers and his tongue loosened. I wont betray what he said but one thing he did say.........Rich Agar is a damn good coach. With his experience I know who's view I'll take thanks.
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| Quote ="denbo63"On my hols in Oz I had the pleasure of meeting Matty Head. We had a few beers and his tongue loosened. I wont betray what he said but one thing he did say.........Rich Agar is a damn good coach. With his experience I know who's view I'll take thanks.'"
isn't he captian/coach in the lower leagues?
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| Well as a fan I am happy we have won 5 out of 8....however we lost 2 games which we really should have won, which would have put us up there.
I want to know what is going on with Agar & Hall..it must be personal
Why is Agar not dropping Briscoe,or changing him to centre, he has been pants most of the season
Why is he not resting/spelling Fitz
We had no backs on the bench last night
What kind of motivational talk does he give for away games
Agar is on a very thin ice for me now
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Haha, seriously?
We have no one asking for McClennans head and we are only 2 wins off bottom
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I'd cut agar some slack if he'd won us the last 2 grand finals
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"One look at the League table shows a marked improvement from last year. The Rugby at times looks very basic and lacking in ideas but you could say that for Bradford and even Leeds this year. Bradford are also having a much improved season as far as the table goes. Only one side is showing class week in week out and that is Wigan. Wire and Hudds are looking quite good but every other side is inconsistent.
Nothing is won in March and whilst it is frustrating the times I have seen you play it is obvious there is improvement to come. If and when that comes (which I suppose is where you lot are divided) Hull could finish top 3 pretty easily because you are 5th and have not even played that well yet!!
I would not be as harsh as to sack a bloke who is making progress. Sometimes it aint pretty but nights like tonight happen. Lynne will learn a lot from tonight, as well a few others. The Hall thing is puzzling but we do not see them on the training ground. I would trust for a little longer if I was a Hull fan to be honest.'"
We've won the same number of games as we had at this time last season and our form is heading in the same direction. We've lost to the only 2 teams we "doubled" last year and our highly paid team of superstars look like they haven't got a clue. If that's progress then god help us
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