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| Quote ="World of Redboy"Well, was looking at the bbc sport website and the hull kr forum on there and someone wrote this on it:
"I have just checked on Companies House and it shows accounts made up to date 04/12/09 however no full details
It does show a negative net worth as of
30/11/2008 -1,545,348.00 GBP"
I take it that is different to total debts of £3.2million that is being reported?'"
Correct. £1.545m is the net position. Rovers have debts of £3.2m and assets offsetting them in the balance sheet (including fixed assets of £1.3m). It's like offsetting the amount you've borrowed on a mortgage with the value of the house.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Correct. £1.545m is the net position. Rovers have debts of £3.2m and assets offsetting them in the balance sheet (including fixed assets of £1.3m). It's like offsetting the amount you've borrowed on a mortgage with the value of the house.'"
I assume that the bulk of that asset value comes from their valuation of their lease at caravan park. Not aware of any other fixed assets they have. Very optimistic given the restrictive covenant on the place
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I assume that the bulk of that asset value comes from their valuation of their lease at caravan park. Not aware of any other fixed assets they have. Very optimistic given the restrictive covenant on the place'"
Think so. No real analysis of fixed assets but it does specifically mention lease capitalisation. Like you say, whether this represents economic value or not is subjective.
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| Quote ="B0NES"I’m going to be a happy idiot
And struggle for the legal tender
Where the ads take aim and lay their claim
To the heart and the soul of the spender
Say a prayer for the Pretender
Who started out so young and strong
Only to surrender'"
Never thought I'd see Jackson Browne quoted on here. Good choice!
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| Roll on the 17th Jan, will make the game all the more sweeter knowing KR's little big bit of money troubles couldn't of happened to a better team, wonder how long before Justin goes to pastures new.
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| Merry Christmas Cookie.
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| Jingle Bells
Hudgell sells
But he can't give Cooke away
Its no fun to run and hide
From another CVA
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| Quote ="cjb24"Roll on the 17th Jan, will make the game all the more sweeter knowing KR's little big bit of money troubles couldn't of happened to a better team, wonder how long before Justin goes to pastures new.'"
Pint of bitter is it?...
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Pint of bitter is it?...
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You need to learn to distinguish between Schadenfreude and bitterness.
Although I guess it's hard to distinguish much with your head buried firmly in the sand.
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| Quote ="Kosh"You need to learn to distinguish between Schadenfreude and bitterness.
Although I guess it's hard to distinguish much with your head buried firmly in the sand.'"
I,ve never had a pint of Schadenfreude, what''s it like ? summat to drink when you're laughing your nuts off
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| Aw i wish i wasnt banned off the Rovers board. If i wasnt, i would be by now!
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| Quote ="WELTON VILLAGER"Get real mate ,
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| Quote ="Kosh"You need to learn to distinguish between Schadenfreude and bitterness.
Although I guess it's hard to distinguish much with your head buried firmly in the sand.'"
Thank you Dr Stool from the University of Heidelberg
You should understand that I take pleasure in knowing HKR have brassed so many FC fans off over the last few seasons - LONGicon_smile.gif may it continue
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| Quote ="trys'r'us"Never thought I'd see Jackson Browne quoted on here. Good choice!'"
He could just as easily have quoted "Running on Empty"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"He could just as easily have quoted "Running on Empty"
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Or even sections of "Call It A Loan", for that matter.
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| Quote ="Basil Fawlty"Thank you Dr Stool from the University of Heidelberg
You should understand that I take pleasure in knowing HKR have brassed so many FC fans off over the last few seasons - LONGicon_smile.gif may it continue
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Bless. Ah well - simple things please simple minds I guess.
Oh - and I'd happily take our current position over yours every day of the week, and twice on Sunday.
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| Seems like a lot of the dobbins, who never seemed to be off here when they were on the crest of a wave,have suddenly gone silent.Bandwaggoner's i called them and bandwaggoners they are.Grudgell,s hatred of us could lead to a very big downfall.With the old dobbins directors it was healthy rivalry,with him it's pure hatred with the hatred rubbing off on his coaching staff.And as for Judas, i bet he wish's he could turn the clock back after his beloved team try to sell him to anybody who wants him.It's a funny old game,what comes around goes around.
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| Quote ="hullbg"If they go under we would not benefit from selling out the stadium at least once a season. It would in effect take off at least 10,000 from our seasonal average. It is all very well having a laugh at their expense but if it affects us in the long run i dont find it a laughing matter.
Just think our average gate is 13k there or thereabouts. We play them we get 23k (varies a bit due to seating etc) so that is roughly 10,000 on top of an average crowd 10k x £20 (average price) =£200,000
It is a lot of money to be dropping for the annual accounts each year.
If we then draw them in the cup or the play offs that will then be another sell out without a doubt and thats an even bigger bonus.
So before laughing at our poorer neighbours and hoping they crumble just think on.'"
You are confusing average attendance with aggregate attendance.
Our average attendance in the 2009 season was 13,226 from an aggregate of 171,941.
Knock off the Rovers game (attendance 22,337) and the average was 12,467 (aggregate 149,604).
That average would still be the third highest in SL last season and one of the highest in the club's history.
Of course we'd get a lower attendance playing, say, Widnes rather than Rovers but really not enough to get worried about.
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