Suspended with or without pay?

they are conducting an investigation, have they just found out FFS

give him a basic wage until a verdict, if is not guilt then let him have a big pay day

Hmmm, yet Hull fans saw him arrested and marched out of his house in August last year........

It would have to be with pay or they would be unable to sack him afterwards I belive.
Its something to do with being punished twice for the same offence I think.

Not sure about that, an employer can do what they want in that situation but the suspended on no pay approach is a dodgy one.

Doesnt say theyve only just started the investigation though does it? Im pretty sure its been running as long as they knew and we knew.



But dont let that stop people knocking the club again!!

Maybe but I'm a Hull fan and wouldn't have known. Strange that Rovers fans seem to have the info at their fingertips

very dodgy to the point of being illegal



If you wanted to suspend anyone on a criminal charge not connected directly to your employment and you had not been found guilty of any crime as yet. Then the only course of action is suspension on full pay, unless the person pleads guilty prior to the hearing then clearly the employer can act within his own stated terms of employment.

Do FC have a " actions that could damage the clubs reputation, standing or commercial interests" clause ?

I doubt it as they could have used it dozens of times in the last few years to my knowledge and even then they have to be consistant

if they did would they use it? after all it is hull fc

no mate, just a reasonable memory


but on the other hand i`m sure i provided a link, damn must of been the invisible ink i used

Its just something I seem to remember happening a while back at a previous employer.
An employee was getting suspended and they wanted to do it without pay, The union rep was more then happy to let them do this much to the employee's annoyance until the rep took him to one side and explained the situation as I have stated, This made the company check why the rep was being so cooperative and he was suspended WITH pay.
He was sacked 3 weeks later (No skin off my nose as the guy in question was the biggest turd you could ever meet)


But I don't know what the current situation is tbh.

Not always illegal. The action doesnt need to be whilst at work, if the employee is in the public eye they can be seen as at work permanently.

Wouldnt need the clause either in certain situations, its implied that it comes with the job.

nothing like this is black and white but FC would have grounds for doing whatever they want with the right legal counsel.

and what happens if some one is found not guilty or the CPS decides not to persue .......................

Ooh er missus

These things get muddier when unions become involved anyway. Theyre all only ever after self promotion and very rarely in my experience even want a fair resolution.



FWIW they can suspend with no pay and then still dismiss, not sure where the rep was coming from here. (obviously there are issues if the person isnt guilty)

Indeed. Which is why full pay is the safer option. Hull have held back their investigation into this case until the CPS decided to pursue.



Personnaly i'd look at his chances based on the evidence and decide whether to go for no pay. If he then gets found not guilty he is obviously due some serious back pay as well as apologies etc.

Sorry I am one of those union types



I can't see how they could suspend without pay and for that reason alone I suspect they will just put off any decision until such times as the case is resolved. He may opt for a plea bargain and that will throw spanners in the works as at that point any employer could act. I do work where any form of crime/ bringing the organisation into disrepute is considered a sackable offence. This has been the case and rightly so, but I do not think it impacts on his job as a rugby player in this case.

You must have a lot of splinters in that lardy 4rse of yours all the fence sitting you do

can someone ask him if they see him this week if he has any cartridges for a Canon LBP5000 colour laser printer ?? Im looking for a black and a magenta !!

I'm sure the club have known about this for some time.

They cannot terminate his contract on the grounds of it unless he pleads guilty or is convicted. To do so would leave them open to a claim for damages for breach of contract.

Looks like we are stuck with him till next April by which time the season will be well under way, he will be on our salary cap and it will be difficult to find a replacement if one is needed.

The problem is that there can be a lot of grey areas with non-brand and "counterfeit" ink cartridges.

I appreciate that completely. But he will be found either guilty or innocent of the charges - I suspect it will end up being "if he knew" scenario - and no-one would admit to that .... would they?

Perhaps I should have put a

in that post.

Maybe he does, then again, maybe not