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| Or he has been loaned out to free up cash enabling us to pay off certain people, prove his worth on somebody elses wage bill??
Just a thought.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"Or he has been loaned out to free up cash enabling us to pay off certain people, prove his worth on somebody elses wage bill??
Just a thought.'"
His wages wouldn't make that much difference.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"
Fact is Paul you cannot expect miracles or make a serious assessment of a players ability from a couple of 10mins spells. '"
Too right, just ask big Sam.
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| We have King,Cordoba,Moa,Lauaki and Radders if needed so thats enough props for us. He isn't up to it and will leave at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"His wages wouldn't make that much difference.'"
Agreed, suppose just wishful thinking!!
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"From all the reports coming out of the club was one of the best of not THE best trainer at the club. Agar, Radford and Berro have commented publically about how he was training the house down.
Fact is Paul you cannot expect miracles or make a serious assessment of a players ability from a couple of 10mins spells. Maloney needed time on the paddock something he clearly has not had.'"
I agree he needed more gametime but nobody on here knows why he never got it, there could be a valid reason. Being a good trainer has nothing to do with ability.
It seems obvious he won't be here next season so maybe that's why they have loaned him out?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I agree he needed more gametime but nobody on here knows why he never got it, there could be a valid reason. Being a good trainer has nothing to do with ability.
It seems obvious he won't be here next season so maybe that's why they have loaned him out?'"
Jon Sharp.
There's your reason. The guy's an idiot
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| Quote ="Ellam"We have King,Cordoba,Moa,Lauaki and Radders if needed so thats enough props for us. He isn't up to it and will leave at the end of the season.'"
Neither of them have performed any better than Maloney when he has played this season.
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| This finally proves what a set of amateur's we have running the club.
A week after bringing in a prop on loan because of injuries, we loan one out.
One word- JOKE
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| I am probably in the minority here but I think Maloney playing for a top Championship for a month isnt such a bad thing. The standard is far better then the reserves at the moment and I dont think he has proved himself to be a super league prop just yet.
Granted he may not have been given as much opportunity but stepping into the championship for match experience whilst still training with Hull may benefit him at his current stage of development.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am probably in the minority here but I think Maloney playing for a top Championship for a month isnt such a bad thing. The standard is far better then the reserves at the moment and I dont think he has proved himself to be a super league prop just yet.
Granted he may not have been given as much opportunity but stepping into the championship for match experience whilst still training with Hull may benefit him at his current stage of development.'"
You probably are in the minority and I am sitting in that minority with you.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am probably in the minority here but I think Maloney playing for a top Championship for a month isnt such a bad thing. The standard is far better then the reserves at the moment and I dont think he has proved himself to be a super league prop just yet.
Granted he may not have been given as much opportunity but stepping into the championship for match experience whilst still training with Hull may benefit him at his current stage of development.'"
We have him til the end of the Season, which i hope will extend beyond August.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am probably in the minority here but I think Maloney playing for a top Championship for a month isnt such a bad thing. The standard is far better then the reserves at the moment and I dont think he has proved himself to be a super league prop just yet.
Granted he may not have been given as much opportunity but stepping into the championship for match experience whilst still training with Hull may benefit him at his current stage of development.'"
It's till the end of season and we haven't discussed a new contract with him yet...He must be one of the dead wood
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| Has he made way on the salary roster to pay for Tansey's early transfer?
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| Unfortunatley i don`t think Maloney is big enough, while he never let us down he is not what we need as a prop, we have been screaming for some size up front sice Carvell did the dirty on us and as far as i can see Maloney isn`t the answer, hopefully Lauaki isn`t too far away from been able to play and we`ll hopefully see some real impact from the bench.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am probably in the minority here but I think Maloney playing for a top Championship for a month isnt such a bad thing. The standard is far better then the reserves at the moment and I dont think he has proved himself to be a super league prop just yet.
Granted he may not have been given as much opportunity but stepping into the championship for match experience whilst still training with Hull may benefit him at his current stage of development.'"
That minority is growing!
FWIW Maloney has done OK for us and i would like him to stay on next year. However, if we have 6 or 7 props already signed up and he is at the back of that list then it makes sense for him personally and for us to not hold onto him. Bigger picture needed here.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"That minority is growing!
FWIW Maloney has done OK for us and i would like him to stay on next year. However, if we have 6 or 7 props already signed up and he is at the back of that list then it makes sense for him personally and for us to not hold onto him. Bigger picture needed here.'"
Indeed.
King, Radford, Dowes and Cusack all ooc at the end of next season. Maloney with the right coaching could be a ready made replacement for one of them without the need to recruit elsewhere. Seems some coaches don't want to coach anymore and prefer the ready made option.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Indeed.
King, Radford, Dowes and Cusack all ooc at the end of next season. Maloney with the right coaching could be a ready made replacement for one of them without the need to recruit elsewhere. Seems some coaches don't want to coach anymore and prefer the ready made option.'"
He could. Or on the other hand he could sit in our reserves and not develop or be good enough meaning weve wasted time and money trying. FWIW i dont even think King and Radford will be here next season but with the signings we are bringing in Maloney wont get a game either.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Indeed.
King, Radford, Dowes and Cusack all ooc at the end of next season. Maloney with the right coaching could be a ready made replacement for one of them without the need to recruit elsewhere. Seems some coaches don't want to coach anymore and prefer the ready made option.'"
Agree. So surely a spell at Halifax with the chance to play in the play offs in the championship will help him more then half a dozen games in the reserves?
I personally think Hull may keep him for at least another year.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Agree. So surely a spell at Halifax with the chance to play in the play offs in the championship will help him more then half a dozen games in the reserves?
I personally think Hull may keep him for at least another year.'"
Hope they do, he has real promise. But if we dont its not the end of the world either like some are making out.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Indeed.
King, Radford, Dowes and Cusack all ooc at the end of next season. Maloney with the right coaching could be a ready made replacement for one of them without the need to recruit elsewhere. Seems some coaches don't want to coach anymore and prefer the ready made option.'"
With the props we have for next season do you think he would get a game?
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| Quote ="Robbo4"With the props we have for next season do you think he would get a game?'"
Exactly the bigger picture point i was making, however, in 12 months time with a year on loan at Fax if that happened he may well be a better replacement too for King if he hasnt already gone by then.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"With the props we have for next season do you think he would get a game?'"
Factoring in injuries, loss of form and a coach that believes in him then, yes.
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| Personaly I think the biggest insult is Agar saying he is "just sat outside the top 17." Jeez, if you cant match some of those hopeless losers,you have no chance.
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| Reading Agars comments on the Hull FC site would suggest that he thinks he is progressing although just not in the first 17 and a spell at Fax will help this process.
All indicates that Agar has future plans for Maloney IMO.
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