Completely agree.

I am sure he will come on leaps and bounds under Cullen

I have missed the news that he is going to Widnes but I do agree with you he needs to go out on Loan - He has a lot of talent but it appears that he is like a lot of young people today who think at a young age they know everthing and will not listen. I am not a wrinkly who thinks I know best but try very hard to point younger people in the right directon and I think Craig is one of the people who needs guidance (as a Rugbyplayer) of course - I am not knocking him as a person because I do not know him

Our first choice Fullback? I think that splits opinion.

Motu is a jack of all trades master of none type of player. A bench player and in the same mould as Stanley Gene in the fact that he gives you the same performace whatver position he is played.

Hall has the skill but not the confidence for Fullback.

Horne doesnt make a Fullback. He plays the same Stand Off attacking roll and simply drops back in defence. Playing him there we lose the second phase options and support play you should be getting from a true Fullback.

I agree it would be a good move to send him on loan as his confidence must be very low knowing that we have been short on backs for most of the season yet his coach drops him for a Leeds academy player, and scoring trys in that league playing well will soon get his confidence back and the fact the players in NL1 are better than u21 teams

no he had to play that way due to lack of options in the halves

My opinion on Yeamo's defence is that he is having to do the work of two men, in having to cover Thorman. He has to continually mop up thormans mistakes in his slide defence thus leaving him exposed or exposing his winger. With a stronger partner on his inside Yeamo is one of the best defenders at the club

Regardless of opinion Motu is our first choice fullback, with everyone fit he would get the fullback position.

I agree to a certain extent, he seems to have no confidence in his inside defender so is often left in two minds and makes wrong choices because of it. Kirk's main strength is usually is defence.

....and his excuse in previous years was???

His only real flaw in terms of defence is that he sometimes makes the wrong decision when flying in to stop an attack before it can really get going. His actual tackling technique is far far superior to Hall.

I disagree. Yeaman has advantage in the tackle due to his superior strength, but his actual technique is no better or worse than Hall's IMO. He does generally position himself better and make better decisions, but is still prone to some of the same errors that Hall makes - albeit with a lower frequency.

Yeamans technique -when he gets it right- is great to watch. Whilst he has the extra strength he can also pull off copybook tackles like the Luaitit tackle against Leeds around the ankles, stopped a certain try. Far better defender then Hall IMO.

I didn't realise Yeamo also just stuck his arms out and closed his eyes when trying to tackle

Seriously when have you ever seen Hall dominate a tackle? Thats not just about strength its also technique and aggression which Hall is lacking in at the moment. Yeaman's defence is more than good enough its his attacking play that lets him down at times.

In the derby this year, dominateed galea preventing a try after he had been moved to the wing

Hall's technique has been shocking its like he playing grab half the time but he doesn't have the physical presence to do this. He's been better this year though.I do like Hall and think he can be great in attack but his problems this year have been with ball in hand. Far to many errors catching and holding the ball that has put us on the backfoot in games.Maybe he feels underpressure that the only way he can keep is spot to to try something different everytime.This comes down to experience and thats why I feel if we where to buy a centre we need a top draw experienced one for Yeaman,Hall and Briscoe to learn these finer points from.

Have to agree, Yeaman is a much better defender than Hall in terms of agression, technique and decision making. Yes he makes mistake and misses tackles, but show me a SL player who doesn't!

Cant recall that one at all?

Yeaman is a good defender technique-wise but sometimes his positional play means he is not near enough to the player he is trying to tackle. When he does get to the player he generally nails him. Hall's defence is poor but as someone else said his work with ball in hand this year has also been poor. Countless dropped balls directly costing us tries. That may have been down to playing out of position and he deserves another chance at centre when that chance becomes available.

Says a lot about Hall when you have to dig deep to remember a dominant tackle.

I don't think he has the heart to play SL. Bags of talent but unfortunately he doesn't seem prepared to put his body on the line. I likened him to Byrne, Hall had bags more talent but I would take Byrne any day of the week.

You can't really judge Hall when he has got shafted by Agar for the last 18 months!

How about the one-on-one try-saver against Richard Moore a year or two ago?



I don't think it's a question of technique as such, but I agree about aggression. And also confidence. Yeaman is convinced he's going to stop people, Hall isn't. That makes a difference.

Yeaman is a better defender, no argument. Just not quite as good as some people think IMO.

Has Agar missed the tackles, dropped the balls, ran into touch etc etc. Hall seems very much a confidence player to me and needs an arm putting round him, neither PS or RA have done that I don't think but it's not all down to them, Hall has to be accountable for his own form.

Pretty much agree with that. Hall has to take some responsibility for getting his head together, but RA & JS are also culpable for seemingly being unable to take the correct approach with him.

It's a real shame because Hall has bags of talent and could be turned into a top notch centre with the correct handling and some hard work from him. It doesn't look as if that's going to happen while he's at FC though.

18 months? Hardly. The fact is Hall hasn't improved since he came into the team and is making the same mistakes and errors. I dont think he has ever been first choice for a position has he? So when he does make those mistakes and errors its obvious he will get dropped especially as we have other options in those positions. I'm not sure its a vendetta by Agar as such but perhaps he just doesn't beleive Hall is currently worth the gamble to be in the team when we are playing the style of rugby we are (attempting to be conservative and error free) which maybe down to the squad Agar has available to him?