only kirk knows that,id say rush of blood

How in your infintie wisdom did Tickle cost us the game ?

Had his carpet slippers on instead of his boots?
Hey I'm not bringing him down, he's normally Mr. Reliable but surely missing 3 kicks in a 1 point defeat is a factor?

but he kicked 16 out of his previous 19

Like I said. Normally Mr. Reliable. Did I?
He missed 3 conversions and had he scored one more ( which in the opinion of most of us in the south stand he did) then we would have won FACT

I'm not denying that Ray and agree.

BUT

If somethings not gone right I'm gonna say so (IMO).
Until the AUP says so, voicing an opinion in a legitimate way is still allowed.

Why the sarcasm Hutchie m8?

Tickle and Aar's fault, feck me what a joke



On Crocker. I don't believe we have anyone else lined up tbh but we would have cash to spend should a player become available, I think the club would sit and wait should Crocker get a no.

got to agree why rush we have got players coming back from injuries ..we have 10 point from 12 we can afford to wait for the right player IF Crocker is turn down

Simple, goal kickers do not lose you games, but they can win them for you.

So Don Fox didn't lose the game for wakey?
It's all part and parcel of the game.

He is a world beater either that or I am a man Have faith the boy is the real deal

No Wakefield were behind at the time of that kick, although he could have won Wakefield that particular game.

Quote ="PAUL M" On Crocker. I don't believe we have anyone else lined up tbh but we would have cash to spend should a player become available, I think the club would sit and wait should Crocker get a no.'" Any chance we can lock a thread once that "C" word arrives in it? Yeah, enough is enough and we're all getting bored, but really, summarising a further amount of "nothing" every day is just getting boring. I've started clicking on this link and if there's nothing mentioned, then there won't be anything... www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Rugby+League I got this link off here the other day and its the first thing I check in a morning, if there's nothing on there, then I forget about it for the day due to the UK/Australia time zones, I would imagine the Ozzies wouldn't want to miss out on a chance to report it first? I'm not having a go at people who want to know, but really, we're all fans that know James Rule never says anything unless he has something to say. Boring it maybe, but that's the guy that's in charge and that's how he wants to do things. (I'll get off my soap box now)

Quote ="PAUL M" On Crocker. I don't believe we have anyone else lined up tbh but we would have cash to spend should a player become available, I think the club would sit and wait should Crocker get a no.'" Any chance we can lock a thread once that "C" word arrives in it? Yeah, enough is enough and we're all getting bored, but really, summarising a further amount of "nothing" every day is just getting boring. I've started clicking on this link and if there's nothing mentioned, then there won't be anything... www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Rugby+League I got this link off here the other day and its the first thing I check in a morning, if there's nothing on there, then I forget about it for the day due to the UK/Australia time zones, I would imagine the Ozzies wouldn't want to miss out on a chance to report it first? I'm not having a go at people who want to know, but really, we're all fans that know James Rule never says anything unless he has something to say. Boring it maybe, but that's the guy that's in charge and that's how he wants to do things. (I'll get off my soap box now)

Yet another day passes with no news !!!!!

Totally agree here......I've not seen a better prospect at Hull FC at that age EVER!
The last time a player 'just appered from obscurity' on the scene and became an instant sensation was Kevin James in 1985.......Fastest winger FC have had IMHO (correct me if you think i'm wrong though

) There have been other 'instant hits' like Dean Treister's stint at the club and the great Peter Sterling, but Tom Briscoe is shaping up to be a player we will remember for years after his last game. Dare I say a legend in the making!!!!! He is the real deal


Not forgetting he has siblings that play too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if that's the case he wasn't at fault then was he?

I agree with Hutchie though, you don't really lose games because of your kicker, especially if they are all touchliners. At home you should be crossing the tryline enough to win games like Friday IMO.

Who said fault?

I said blame.

If Tickle had kicked the goals we could have won.
If Agar had taken the kicking duties off Tickle when it was clear he was missing, we could have won.
If Agar had made better use of his substitues, we could have won.

Or is there nobody to blame, where there no circumstances under which we could have won?

It's getting all sycophantic on here again, and so early in the season.

People are allowed opinions, we don't all just sit there and accept what goes on and throw our hands up and say "oh well, never mind eh".

Ifs and buts you cannot live life on ifs and buts >>If I had put last numbers down I would have won the Lottery ..Ifs and Buts are not about opinions Look at the reply we could put the blame on 2 tries down to the Horne Brothers I will say it again Sh-t Happens

If Yeaman had passed to Briscoe we'd have won.
If Berrigan had passed to Thorman we might have got a point.
If Calderwood had stayed away from dummy half in the last set, likewise.
If Hall had taken the bomb or gathered the loose ball cleanly we'd have won.
If Briscoe had gathered Thorman's pass we'd have won.
If Dowes had tackled Westerman we'd have won.
If (Dowes again?) hadn't bought McGoldrick's dummy we'd have won.
If someone had actually [iran[/i to chase down Sherwin's drop we'd have got a point.
If one of several (any?) players could successfully pick out Calderwood with a pass we'd have won.

Of course people are entitled to opininons, but to pick out 2 people in a performance that was pretty obviously the worst of the season by several and littered with errors from multiple individuals is far from accurate in the opinion of many others it would appear. Or are they not entitled to opinions because theirs happen to disagree?

As youve highlighted there were probably about 20 instances in the game on Friday when we didnt do things well that added together lost us the game. We did well to be within 1 point the way we played. If all 20 things had gone right we'd have won convincingly. Thats just sport for you i guess!

But you have got to look at the main reasons why we lost and not include the small reasons. The Yeaman pass for example wasn't at a crucial time in the game so for me it was a key factor in losing the game. Not saying I fully agree with the fact Agar and Tickle are just to blame. Personally I think Tickle should have kicked at least one of the kicks he missed, we should have took the two at one stage near the end of the game (Agars fault?). Also Thorman or Tickle should have been in place for the DG not Horne, and whoever scooted on the last tackle near the end of the game should be shot (Berrigan?). They were the key factors imo

Exactly. If there's one glaring individual error in a narrow defeat, the loss can arguably be attributed to the one at fault. But in a game like Friday, when IMO almost all simply didn't turn up, too much goes on to single a few out.

I disagree. I think at the stage it was it would have just given us enough impetus and hurt Castelford enough for us to go on and win.



Debatable after the previous week.