Mellor being out for them is a big blow, very dangerous player.

If we can get 3 props on the field (Carvell, Watts and Feka) I think we will win, otherwise not very confident at all.

Cheers for that, got it in my head it was a tv game

from the highlights of their game v Leeds their left side is where they conceded the most tries

Win ugly and people will moan. Win well and people will moan it's only widnes. Lose and people will moan ha ha.
Any win will do me. hull by 16

"Feka could be in contention, Carvell remains doubtful" according to Smailes

Widnes will be boosted by our injuries but still think we will win this.

Absolutely have to win this one if we have ambitions of been up at the top. The league is wide open this year and despite 2 wins from 5 I still think 4th is up for grabs, but we can't afford any slip ups between now and the London game.

Don't get why we played mind games with carvel. Originally said he could be back week after. Now looking it'll be a month. That's an age with modern recovery techniques and equipment!
Lucky for us I'd say widnes pack isn't particularly big so pitts and Thomson could be effective still.

Not sure if mind games. Carvs was desperate to play against Wire and Radders gave him a chance to prove his fitness and his ankle had a bad reaction. In retrospect it appears we tried to bring him back too early and are now paying the price

Fair enough. Although that too sounds a bit stupid. A 120kilo guy rolls his ankle to any degree he unless a young whipper snapper doesn't get over it in 7days! Bit annoying because without exaggeration I fully think 1more big guy would have probably got us a win at Castleford

According to the Widnes forum (Not rlfans) Danny Tickle is out for them also.

kevin brown needs to be well policed, he's playing well, always liked him and wouldn't have minded seeing hull go for him

Frankly if we can't beat Widnes at home we may as well give up. We should be beating teams like Widnes home and away if we want to make any impact in the competition.

I guess you mean this despite missing McDonnell, Lineham, Crookes, Paea, Green, Bowden, Carvell, Feka, ...

Leeds, Wigan and Saints wouldn't be making excuses like that. All teams get injuries. We should have the strength in depth to cope with them, especially if Widnes are missing two key players in Mellor and Tickle.

Saints will have missing this week, Turner Percival Walsh Walmsley Soliola LMS and Beaumont, so it's a pretty even comparison - all teams get injuries, it's how you deal with them that defines how good you are

lets take a leaf out of saints' book, nathan brown has openly said he going to bloody young ones in, we have dean hadley and tyson-wilson(prop). i bet these two guys are raring to go.

I asked about him yesterday. Suppose to of had his shoulder cleaned out?? Wouldn't mind throwing in Hadley though. Thought he showed some promise games seen him play.

BTW is out injured isn't he & isn't Hadley a 2nd rower? How would that help out prop problems?

Shame BTW is injured or he could/should have got a game against Widnes.

As for props worst game scenario, I'd go with

Watts
Thompson
Pitts
Tuson

Rankin
Colborn
Arundel
Yeaman
Talonoa
Horne
Miller
Watts
Houghton
Thompson
Ellis
Whiting
Westerman

Tuson
Pitts
Hadley
Heremia

Hadleys a big player.. Would you think of Thompson as a prop?? Sometimes you just got to use what you've got.

Tickle will be playing on Sunday and Phil Joseph will also return, our major loss is Mellor and with Craven also injured it will be down to rookie Tom Gilmore to partner Kevin Brown. We have traditionally played utter garbage when we go to Hull but history has to change sometime eh? both sides have injuries but obviously on your own patch will be classed as favourites.

Only seen him a couple of times so can't really remember how big he is, I just know he's young & down as a 2nd rower so may not adapt as well. On a side note can't we play [url=http://www.hullfc.com/first-team/profile/252747/dave-butlerthis guy?[/url

Looks like Ellis will prop, so that gives us Watts, Thompson, Ellis and Feka as props.

What about Pitts? He's not the biggest but he's as big as Thompson and he has paid prop several times before.

Ha Ha Ha its only widnes please remind me when was the last time u Was champions of the world even if it was like 20 odd years ago and the last club side to beat the Aussies like never have u even won as much as us i doubt it.Get a grip you might be more well supported and favorites for this game But come on Give us a bit of credit. Ps i remember Hull sharks wasn't that a good team lol