Never going to happen with the first team playing about 50 minutes together. It's obviously been planned this way so we can't judge whether it's worked or not until the season starts.

Wigan got beat at home to Cas last year.

A good bunch of the first team played 40 mins together today and it didn't sound promising, nor did the game against Bradford.

Somebody who speaks sense.....totally agree

Of course they do.

Wigan lost ten league games last season including to Cas (and us

), in 2012 Leeds lost eleven including tonkings by Wigan, Saints, Warrington, Huddersfield and Wakefield. They also lost to Bradford.

an utter shambles.

Leeds finished 5th in 2012 though, before their play-off heroics.

fair point on Wigan losing to Cas, but I bet that defeat was met with Wane reading the riot act to the squad and investigating what went wrong in detail, at HullFC the impression you get is that it would have been 'oh well, better luck next week' and off to the pub...followed by some spin being issued to the media.

@James_Smailes: Liam Watts (shin) and Chris Green (ankle) going for scans in injuries. Lee Radford a very angry man right now after that display

Radford can be as angry as he likes but he is the coach & he is the one who made the team selection. We lost watts early & then Green later which left a very light & inexperienced pack against a team that wanted it. I accept it was only pre season but surely these are used to get the 18/19man squad on the last game pretty close to what it will be for the opening game of the season. The 2nd half was a farce with only Miller Arundel Shaul playing for most of it what that has done for the young lads in terms of confidence I don't know.
Rankin looks a decent addition but hard to tell where the team are at as there seemed to be no direction from anywhere.
These pre season games wil hardly get the excitement going for the start of the season infact quite the opposite. The only positive for me was it was a good turn out for rich whiting

Thought the same myself today.

I thought Agar...

If the coach seems so disinterested with pre-season games it's no wonder the players were also.

Any post match reaction from him yet?

Our pre season has been very baffling .
Surely the Academy teams could arrange their own ? Too many young lads who will never make the first given a run out.
Very worried about the new season . Bottom 4 scrap for us , rather than a top 4 fight .

All in a pub in Featherstone I bet.

Said the same on the way out of the ground, Walsh also said "friendlies are meaningless" and we all know how that turned out.

what's worrying me is that we've never had a hammering like that from a lower division team in a pre season friendly - even with kids playing. something just looks wrong at the club to me

What's wrong at the club??? We got beaten by a good team they had most of there first 13 on & we had a few first teamers in for a bit then our kids in & they taught us a lesson...our kids needed to keep there feet on the ground rather then walking around in an FC hoodie thinking there the finished article, people saying we are going to be relegated & think the club are in turmoil make me laugh!

nonetheless it was still a lower division team and our first teamers didn't exactly set the world alight in the first half. we should have at least handed over to the youngsters with a lead. when we have had good seasons in the past we have built a bit of momentum in the pre season to carry into the season proper. but what the hell it was only a friendly, i'll live with that for now, let's see where we are after the first 10 games or so, but i reserve the right to be worried

I hope you're right but no one but you seems to have seen anything to suggest we're even moving in the right direction on the field

Other then the 7 role I think our recruitment is even or better for the new season, a couple of friendlys don't determine your season ahead, I think after last seasons lows people are just worried we are no further on AP is doing a lot for us in not just the season ahead but years to come.

Thats spot on it was still a friendly. Catalan is when it starts

you wont have it at all will you......"we had a FEW first teamers in for a BIT"
Fev had around 9 new signings in that side today who had only played together 2/3 times, with possibly 6 sat in the stand and not involved who were regular first teamers last season.
Take a look at the Hull team sheet and tell me which players from the following will not be regular first team later this month.......Shaul, Lineham, Yeamon, Crookes, Horne, Miller, Rankin, Watts, Green, Whiting, Westerman, Bowden, Thompson & arundel..........
admittedly you also had half a dozen players not playing..........but dont make out the players above should not be too strong for any part time team

Wont have what? I just said our clubs not in the mess some people think it is, we was beaten by a better team today, so what you giving it?

No argument from me, we should have been able to win the first half but we were poor and Fev were really up for it.

Second half was pointless and I hope it hasn't damaged any of the kids confidence too much.