i think fitness coincides with injuries. I think we have players injured that Gentle would like want to drop, but doesn't have back up replacements, and with these injured players, others are over compensating indefence, becoming mentally tired, causing some of these penalties

I dont even know where to start, I'm literally at a point where I cant be d anymore. These supporters deserve more, a lot more.

Poor attitude didnt want to work for the points

The support was great today, as well. Lots there and very vocal.

The only positive, if it is a positive, is that I am certain that we won't make crap excuses and accept this as 'one of those things'.

I suspect this week will be pretty unpleasant for the players. It needs to be. It was a bloody awful performance.

Incredible that we were 20 points clear with 30 or so minutes to play and we lost the match with an ill disciplined poor performance. The players and more importantly the coach need to have a good look at where the team are and where they want to be. They should all hang their heads in shame and get a grip.
Fair play to Wakey and Agar because they had the desire to win and deserved the win. I would like to think this would be a wake up call for our shower of 5hite but it won't.

This. Congratulations to Wakefield on a spirited fightback. We got precisely what we deserved from that game, ie nothing. Scrapping for 8th again. Unacceptable level of effort in front of a couple of thousand of travelling fans.

Title sums it up in one word

I feel sicker now than I did two weeks ago at the Ethiad. Furious.

I blame Agar.

I can see Wire handing us our ar5es on a plate if we don't improve by 95%

its the agar effect.

Shocking performance and capitulation, again.

The team appears to lack heart.

Gentle being very cagey...

Listening to Gentle there's clearly something going on inside the squad that he's not prepared to talk about.

Un(bl**dy)believable and we cannot blame Ganson this time. That's 3 games in a row where conceeding penalty after penalty, defensive errors and the wrong mental attitude has lost us the game. I thought the reasons for the defeat by Saints and KR had been addressed in training and the team as a whole would have learnt by this but they must have been napping at that point. The players are being paid to do a job so now is the time to start earning their wages and taking onto the field what they have been practising in training. Wire fills me with dread and can see us fighting to stay in the top 8 at this rate, my glass is definitely half empty atm. Come on FC get it sorted.

Worrying mate.

think the team needs rotating, bring the youngsters in and send a clear message that complacency will not be tolerated. Cant knock Manu but since Turner turned his contract down he seems to of gone backwards, perhaps let him rot in the 20's until end of season
May seem a bit over the top but being realistic we arnt going to win out this year and will give the rest of the squad a good kick up the @rse

That will add more fuel on the fire then.

It appears there has been for at least 7 or 8 seasons and it's not yet been identified and dealt with. P45 any player who thinks he's above the club and more importantly can't be bothered to play for us. We deserve better we really do.

He mentioned that some players didn't have the right attitude. Drop them, then.

I'm a Saints fan - I have no axe to grind...

Your position now is SOOOOO reminicent of us under Royce -

Predictable attack that is easy to read and defend

CAN'T hold onto a lead 14 points was nothing and we could always be sure we would loose it

Go behind and you cant come back

Coach bemoaning letting in too many points

If you concentrate on defense the attack goes to pot

Way, way too many penalties

Both from Wests and Tim Sheens - the only difference is that West Tigers have Benji Marshall to pull them out of holes Saints nor Hull have one of them...

Gentle not happy, Clarkey says it's the most angry he's seen him.

Personally I say so what, it's okay saying "we are not taking what we do in training onto the pitch" and so on but why is it not happening.

I still ahve faith in Gentle to sort it out but he can keep talking about a top four side, we're not even close right now.

Massive rebuilding to do I think and I also beleive there are a few people who Gentle isn't happy with but he wasn't naming names. One has to be Westerman, struggling for form after his injury but taking wrong options and giving away far too many penalties.

Also think our falling away might be too many forwards playing too many minutes.

Never mind drop them - get rid of them.

Westerman was poor this season before his injury.