really must of been some massive blokes to be honest he isn't a small lad is hock.

hock wasn't trying to steal the head (it doesn't matter these days as its passive) lms pushed hes head back into the scrum next micky macks and i know aswell as you do thats not the right head position in feeding the scrum.

LMS and Hock 10 mins...Tuson and Magennis both deserved red.Good old fashioned bit of biff no matter what the morons think on sky think,any neutral viewing would be loving that and will tune in for more.

i'd say thats more of a social change. every fans love biff and thats one of the main reasons as to why state of origin has become the most watched rugby game.

id hate to see league go down the same road as union where they have a few words after jumping on each other then have a little push and act the big man afterwards.

Of course he was LMS was on the outside which is the correct position for a team that has the head (Hense the term) Hock decided that he was going to be clever and LMS wasn't having any of it.
If you look again have a look at how the rest of the scrum is formed and it is clear that Hock's head position should have been inside the head of LMS.
You say it doesn't matter but I beg to differ like I said if he had tried that he would have been on his backside no matter how big he is.

ok please tell me as to why it matters? and anyhow if lms didn't like it all he had to do was stand up tell the ref and hock would of been told to pack properly. but lms didnt do that he tried to man handle hock and hock wasn't having any of it and it turned into some love taps nothing major.

hock's name is a massive part to why some fans are calling for him to be put down.

It matters to a front rower when someone tries to dominate you in the scrum Hock was trying to be clever and LMS wasn't having any of it.
I know you may not like that fact but there it is.

That has nothing to do with it being Gareth Hock BTW.

so you agree then lms started the set to because he wasn't happy with hock. in all honesty it really doesn't matter both teams split from the scrum soon as the ball passes the 2nd rowers feet its hardly as if hock was angling for a better position to push or strike for the ball.

Why try it at all scrums are crap anyway and goes in the 2nd row.

No Hock started it by trying to steal the head.
How many more times do you want me to say it?
Oh wait let me guess I have a agenda against Hock right?

Ask Gareth Hock.

no honestly i dont think you do, i actually think your abit old school and some reason think it actually matters where the heads go these days and it doesn't. lms tried to man handle hock and hock gets a bit angry and rubbed hes head into hes face then words was followed by a few love taps nothing major.

i dont think its anything to do with attempting to dominate at the scrum it really doesn't matter these days.

Rubbish.
Hock knew what he was doing.
You can deny it all you like.

It's the principal of what Hock tried to do, LMS wasn't having any of it. Fair play.

Magennis deserves more than a one game ban, but so do O'Loughlin and Mossop for throwing at Magennis while he's being held, cheap shot merchants. Mossop threw his punch and then ran away the big fairy.

the fact your saying o'loughlin threw a punch shows you haven't seen it at all or not a good view of it, he doesn't throw a punch at all even tho the dog was still trying to windmill at him. and mossop should get into boxing if he flaws him with players holding him.



plus mossop punched him after a punch was thrown hes way even saints fans have admitted it.

Shock horror!! Hock's lover tries to defend thug's actions.

Hock shouldn't even be playing the game, drug addled cheat (playing bloody well up until yesterday mind!)

For me Hock and LMS in the bin, maybe a one match ban, with Tuson's red being correct, and probably 2 games for that, and Magenis getting 4 or 5 games for throwing the first punch in that bit of biff.

I hope that the biff never leaves the game though, surely everyone loves a good scrap?

I have to admit - a good tear up does make good viewing. I know some will say it shouldnt be part of the game and each to his own I suppose.

Personally I enjoy it in the same way I like to watch a good boxing match, as long as it doesnt detract from a decent game, and it didnt.

Hock is a bell end though, he is always looking for it in every game, the only shame for me it someone didnt drop him

Lee Mossop: Rule: 15.1(a) Detail – Punching Grade B MRP - Referred to tribunal (1-2 matches)

Chris Tuson: Rule: 15.1(a) Detail – Punching - Sustained Grade C MRP - Referred to tribunal (2-3 matches)

Gareth Hock: Rule: 15.1(a) Detail – Punching Grade B MRP - Referred to tribunal (1-2 matches)

Shaun Magennis: Rule: 15.1(a) Detail – Punching – Violent/Sustained Grade D MRP - Referred to tribunal (3-5 matches)

Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook: Player becomes involved in confrontation with opponent but does not throw punches. MRP - NFA

How about "Gareth Hock, sustained violent assault with intent to harm" 18 months to 2 years, previous drug taking and violent conduct, banned from the game for three years, would seem about right.

Justice Standee stylee

Here, you forgot this:

there was a few high tackles to, seem to remember Wilkin and McCollorum swinging high, wonder if they'll get done too???

Nah course not, they only do that to Hull.

All three red carded players will get banned, no question. Lockers should be up too.