Turner was fine today, our attack was not the issue today it was our defence.

Nor is Horne.

Bingo!

Unfortunately half our fans are so far up themselves they can't see it. Rovers never looked like losing today, Morgan is a class act and his team play for him - that's the difference.

Dare I suggest that Tansey has the kind of spark that Hull lacked today. Did the right thing getting shut of him but that's what Hull need.

It was both. Our kicking game was awful.

Turner was fine for 20mins then went missing....was shocking after that.

So did Fitz and O'Meeley so slate them aswell!

My thoughts too, he did fine and looked to attack where he could. Our defence and discipline was the issue.

I used to blame Long, he's come here for his pension, but he is surrounded by players who seem unable to spot a decent line and a coach who seems unable to formulate a decent strategy to get the best out of Long's waning prowess.

He missed some one to run onto his scoots, hopefully Horney can provide this like we all know he can.

well they hit longy out wide for a few of there tries his defence wasnt good today.............

soon as radford and o'meley went off we struggled for me radford was causing them alot of problems take is injured as he never came back on.

the Horne of 3 years ago maybe, but I have serious doubts that he can cut it at this level anymore. In the few games he played last season he looked off the pace.

He wont dominate when we don't have the ball or on exit sets. Attack wasn't the problem today - it showed some good signs. Second row channel defence inside our own 20 was a joke.

I thought Long did nothing till the 60 min mark and then had a couple of good breaks/passes etc.

You mean the games in which many on here called him the MOM.

Let's not judge him before he even plays. We know what he's capable of doing, so let's support him rather then not believe in him, yeh?

He was heavily involved in both of Hull's first tries.

He looked to really threat today, great to see on the first game of the season.

Sums it up for me. he must lay awake at night wondering why the hell he turned down wigan to sign for us

And Rovers tries unfortunately.

Yes you're right. Along with many others.

defence the problem , first match hopefully we can sort it

think if we are saying the same things 7 matches in we got problems, or maybe am looking through rose tinted glasses

Even when we had the ball he wasn't calling the plays from tackle 3 onwards which should be just a given for a number 7. I'm not even talking about "attack" as such but controlling the sets and structure of those exit sets you mention. Standing too shallow on the 5th tackle so he is under pressure for the kick etc. Yes defence was shocking but this thread is about Long. He did some things well but he needs to be setting the tone and making sure those sets run like clockwork.

I thought he was one of the worst tbh.

Started well but was to blame for some poor errors.