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| I'd be very surprised if Agar was not just being diplomatic.
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| Quote ="fcimp"I'd be very surprised if Agar was not just being diplomatic.'"
I'd be surprised if agar wasn't looking at extending his contact. If he wasn't he wouldn't be in tomorrow night's squad. If he plays then I'd say he's almost certain to get a contract for next year
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'd be surprised if agar wasn't looking at extending his contact. If he wasn't he wouldn't be in tomorrow night's squad. If he plays then I'd say he's almost certain to get a contract for next year'"
Stop it Jake right NOW
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| I understand Agar's think ing about a thrid halfback, with what happened in recent years he wants to protect us in that area. However we have Washy who can play 6, Berro who can play 7 and Whiting who can step in at 6 and maybe even Lee.
So on that basis I hope Thorman leaves.
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| And Tansey can play six so he can feck off .
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| Thorman would be an expensive reserve half back (i would have thought). Agar is maybe playing mind games here stating that if Thorman produces the goods there is still a chance of a new contract.
If i was the coach i'd say something like that (but meaning the total opposite!)...a bit like a smiling assassin i suppose!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'd be surprised if agar wasn't looking at extending his contact. If he wasn't he wouldn't be in tomorrow night's squad. If he plays then I'd say he's almost certain to get a contract for next year'"
There would have to be a turnaround in Thorman's form equivalent to Jesus's raising of Lazarus for us to keep him - the biblical Lazarus not Glenn or Blake. Anyway, we know that's impossible because Long is the saviour, not Agar.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I understand Agar's think ing about a thrid halfback, with what happened in recent years he wants to protect us in that area. However we have Washy who can play 6, Berro who can play 7 and Whiting who can step in at 6 and maybe even Lee.
So on that basis I hope Thorman leaves.'"
The fact that he is dog turd and shows no iterest or desire to be on a rugby pitch is the basis that should see Thorman leave.
Our depth in the backs should not come into it as the simple fact is that Thorman is not good enough.
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| We now have enough cover at HB to let Thorman go. It would be madness to waste salary cap space on him at the expense of spending it on a better quality player coming in. Whether we like it or not Thorman is here until the end of the season and Agar needs to find a way to get the best out of him in that time so his comments shouldn't be taken as an indication Thorman will stay IMO.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"We now have enough cover at HB to let Thorman go. It would be madness to waste salary cap space on him at the expense of spending it on a better quality player coming in. Whether we like it or not Thorman is here until the end of the season and Agar needs to find a way to get the best out of him in that time so his comments shouldn't be taken as an indication Thorman will stay IMO.'"
My thoughts as well
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| I would have thought with still half a season to go some of you would be routeing for Thorman to 'step up' and put a few performances together. He WAS a pretty good player a few years ago, is pretty versatile in that he has played a lot of games at FB and IF he can find a bit of confidence then would be a good squad member.
Lets face it, no one can say he didn't have a mare of the biggest kind in the Leeds game but I'm sure he knows it a much as anyone, and to be honest you never looked much better when he went off, so could it maybe that as a HB he isn't getting enough protection, field position, runners etc and even the best HB in the world would have struggled to do anything about it.
I have no vested interest in Thorman playing better but I've seen it at our club when a player becomes the pantomime villain and no matter how much good stuff he does it will always have negative spin put on it.
I just get the feeling a lot of your fans would prefer Thorman to play badly just to say I told you so.....
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| Quote ="barham red"I would have thought with still half a season to go some of you would be routeing for Thorman to 'step up' and put a few performances together. He WAS a pretty good player a few years ago, is pretty versatile in that he has played a lot of games at FB and IF he can find a bit of confidence then would be a good squad member.
Lets face it, no one can say he didn't have a mare of the biggest kind in the Leeds game but I'm sure he knows it a much as anyone, and to be honest you never looked much better when he went off, so could it maybe that as a HB he isn't getting enough protection, field position, runners etc and even the best HB in the world would have struggled to do anything about it.
I have no vested interest in Thorman playing better but I've seen it at our club when a player becomes the pantomime villain and no matter how much good stuff he does it will always have negative spin put on it.
I just get the feeling a lot of your fans would prefer Thorman to play badly just to say I told you so.....'"
I am hoping it is not just Thorman who goes out with a point to prove for the rest of the season! Our recruitment shows that a few players may be playing for their futures and anybody in a comfort zone needs to wake up and smell the coffee!
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| Quote ="barham red"I would have thought with still half a season to go some of you would be routeing for Thorman to 'step up' and put a few performances together. He WAS a pretty good player a few years ago, is pretty versatile in that he has played a lot of games at FB and IF he can find a bit of confidence then would be a good squad member.
Lets face it, no one can say he didn't have a mare of the biggest kind in the Leeds game but I'm sure he knows it a much as anyone, and to be honest you never looked much better when he went off, so could it maybe that as a HB he isn't getting enough protection, field position, runners etc and even the best HB in the world would have struggled to do anything about it.
I have no vested interest in Thorman playing better but I've seen it at our club when a player becomes the pantomime villain and no matter how much good stuff he does it will always have negative spin put on it.
I just get the feeling a lot of your fans would prefer Thorman to play badly just to say I told you so.....'"
Thorman's performance against Leeds was only marginly worse than what he has been producing for the last 9 or 10 games imo. Nobody wanted him to come here and fail and the vast majority of fans have given him plenty of time to show what he is capable off. Unfortunately, after just half a season he has proved to me, many other fans and hopefully Rich Agar that he can't cut the mustard and needs to go.
A few good performances from him would only paper over the cracks imo.
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| Quote ="roversmad"suprised he you know actually you know got around to you know actually talking you know about rugby at all you know the amount of times he you know said you know
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Agar is a "Wezzy" and comes across as exactly that. Use of the word "us" instead of the word "our" as in:
"Us coach is out of thar depth"
....is a prime example.
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| Quote ="barham red"I would have thought with still half a season to go some of you would be routeing for Thorman to 'step up' and put a few performances together. He WAS a pretty good player a few years ago, is pretty versatile in that he has played a lot of games at FB and IF he can find a bit of confidence then would be a good squad member.
Lets face it, no one can say he didn't have a mare of the biggest kind in the Leeds game but I'm sure he knows it a much as anyone, and to be honest you never looked much better when he went off, so could it maybe that as a HB he isn't getting enough protection, field position, runners etc and even the best HB in the world would have struggled to do anything about it.
I have no vested interest in Thorman playing better but I've seen it at our club when a player becomes the pantomime villain and no matter how much good stuff he does it will always have negative spin put on it.
I just get the feeling a lot of your fans would prefer Thorman to play badly just to say I told you so.....'"
I will agree with you there,but it was the manner in which Thorman was playing that rankled.Hell he looked like he couldn`t tackle a good dinner.It also looked like he was getting on Raynor`s wire too,as Raynor seemed to be giving him a right talking to under the sticks.
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| I'd rather play Lee there for the rest of the season tbh. We all know how crap Thorman is, so why not give it to Lee to show what he can do there.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"I'd rather play Lee there for the rest of the season tbh. We all know how crap Thorman is, so why not give it to Lee to show what he can do there.'"
So we can all get on Lee's back like we have Thormans? Sorry no.
I'm going to wait till after tonight, i think we will all be suprised, Thormans going to have a stunner!
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| Quote ="Whiting"So we can all get on Lee's back like we have Thormans? Sorry no.
I'm going to wait till after tonight, i think we will all be suprised, Thormans going to have a stunner!'"
No he's not, he's not capable of having a stunner.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"No he's not, he's not capable of having a stunner.'"
Oh I dunno - his performance at Leeds left me stunned.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Oh I dunno - his performance at Leeds left me stunned.
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| Quote ="Whiting"So we can all get on Lee's back like we have Thormans? Sorry no.
I'm going to wait till after tonight, i think we will all be suprised, Thormans going to have a stunner!'"
I am sure he will. Maybe he'll only gift Saints two tries tonight. My Grandpappy once said to me "Son you can't polish a turd".
I hope I'm proved wrong but I very much doubt it.
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If we start the match thinking he will be , he will be! At least wait till 10 minutes in, and we're 22-0 down before we start
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| Quote ="Kosh"Oh I dunno - his performance at Leeds left me stunned.
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too true you and several thousand others
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