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| Quote ="gazcoops"You forgetting the derby match at the KC last season, you know the one where Morgan said Dobson was the best number 7 in the city, only for him to get outplayed by Lee.'"
How dare you?
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| Quote ="FCTID"How dare you?'"
Seriously tho, I think Lee has grown up and is ready for another crack at the scrum half position, today he showed he can control a game, he can't do any worse than Thorman is doing at the moment.
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| Quote ="Frogger"17 players that will actually show some pride wearing the shirt, will do for me!!! Not expecting a win on Friday, but am praying for HUGE effort and improvement
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im prayin that kath and co are gone
i'd even let rovers win 60 nil to let it happen
then again
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Seriously tho, I think Lee has grown up and is ready for another crack at the scrum half position, today he showed he can control a game, he can't do any worse than Thorman is doing at the moment.'"
I'd go with it, but we'll get hammered on here for thinking it
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| Thorman to Full Back defensively. In attack he needs to operate out wide on the left.
R.Horne to operate wide out on the right.
Tommy Lee at Half-back with the main role of first reciever making sure Thorman and R.Horne get the ball fast.
Berrigan at Hooker playing for the full 80.
Craig Hall to left wing with Briscoe on the bench. If G.Horne or Yeaman fail to perform Hall to replace and Briscoe to the Wing.
King and Dowes to start with Cusack and Thacks as replacements.
Radford at 13 in his running role to be spelled by Whiting.
Calderwood to be used to chase attacking kicks.
Yeaman and Calderwood MUST not run from dummy half.
Thorman
Calderwood
G.Horne
Yeaman
Hall
R.Horne
Lee
King
Berrigan
Dowes
Tickle
Manu
Radford
Cusack
Thacks
Whiting
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Thorman to Full Back defensively. In attack he needs to operate out wide on the left.
R.Horne to operate wide out on the right.
Tommy Lee at Half-back with the main role of first reciever making sure Thorman and R.Horne get the ball fast.
Berrigan at Hooker playing for the full 80.
Craig Hall to left wing with Briscoe on the bench. If G.Horne or Yeaman fail to perform Hall to replace and Briscoe to the Wing.
King and Dowes to start with Cusack and Thacks as replacements.
Radford at 13 in his running role to be spelled by Whiting.
Calderwood to be used to chase attacking kicks.
Yeaman and Calderwood MUST not run from dummy half.
Thorman
Calderwood
G.Horne
Yeaman
Hall
R.Horne
Lee
King
Berrigan
Dowes
Tickle
Manu
Radford
Cusack
Thacks
Whiting
Briscoe'"
The winner for me
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| Quote ="FCTID"I'd go with it, but we'll get hammered on here for thinking it'"
Im man enough to take it on the chin, Lee just got thrown in at the deep end when he wasn't ready and people on here got on his back, just like they did with Hall. Sometimes you have to give these youngsters a chance, they are the future of this team and they will form the core of a very good side in the future.
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| Things must be bad if people are touting Lee for the scrum half spot. Things must be really, really bad.
Whether or not Lee will ever make a SL hooker is open to debate. Whether he'll make a scrum half is not.
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| Quote ="FCTID"The winner for me'"
With your ideas Agar might offer you a job
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| Quote ="The Brother"With your ideas Agar might offer you a job
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Looking at your other posts you seem more than capable yourself
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Radford at 13 in his running role'"
That just made me actually laugh out loud.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Things must be bad if people are touting Lee for the scrum half spot. Things must be really, really bad.
Whether or not Lee will ever make a SL hooker is open to debate. Whether he'll make a scrum half is not.'"
You're speaking of Half-backs in the old sense with a creative 7 and a supporting 6.
We don't operate like this and haven't got the players to do that this season. Best thing we can do is get the best out of what we have got.
Because we're playing with Radford as a running Loose Forward we have no Loose Forward ball handling wide out resulting in slow one man rugby as we've seen.
As I put earlier we need Horne and Thorman operating wider. In order to do that we need someone operating in the middle making sure the ball is shifted out.
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| Quote ="FCTID"Looking at your other posts you seem more than capable yourself
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Thorman at full back,briscoe on the bench, lee at scrum half i rest my case Rich
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| Quote ="The Brother"Thorman at full back,briscoe on the bench, lee at scrum half i rest my case Rich
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so what would you do then?, seeing as the clubs in such disarray IYO
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| Quote ="Kosh"That just made me actually laugh out loud.
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Explain
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| Quote ="FCTID"so what would you do then?, seeing as the clubs in such disarray IYO'"
get knocker, sterlo and barnett snr back
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Explain'"
Radford..... running role.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"You're speaking of Half-backs in the old sense with a creative 7 and a supporting 6.
We don't operate like this and haven't got the players to do that this season. Best thing we can do is get the best out of what we have got.
Because we're playing with Radford as a running Loose Forward we have no Loose Forward ball handling wide out resulting in slow one man rugby as we've seen.
As I put earlier we need Horne and Thorman operating wider. In order to do that we need someone operating in the middle making sure the ball is shifted out.'"
Lee's decision making is nowhere near good enough for this role. He cannot control a game and invariably takes wrong options under pressure.
We do have to get the best out of what we've got, which means the forwards have to up their performance and lay a platform for the recognised halfbacks in the squad to be able to play.
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| Quote ="The Brother"get knocker, sterlo and barnett snr back'"
Serious though, what can Agar do if the clubs got the problems your suggesting, ??
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Explain'"
Radford should be nowhere near the 13 role in [iany[/i capacity. Choices like that really epitomise what is wrong with the side IMO.
And as for 'running role'... He was never quick. Now he barely gets above 'trundle'.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Lee's decision making is nowhere near good enough for this role. He cannot control a game and invariably takes wrong options under pressure.
We do have to get the best out of what we've got, which means the forwards have to up their performance and lay a platform for the recognised halfbacks in the squad to be able to play.'"
Berrigan would control the middle. Thorman and Horne would control out wide. What im suggesting isnt someone to control anything but to make sure that ball is shifted.
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Berrigan would control the middle. Thorman and Horne would control out wide. What im suggesting isnt someone to control anything but to make sure that ball is shifted.'"
So you want a scrum half/first receiver who does nothing other than pass the ball to one of two players?
Sounds like a great plan to me.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Radford should be nowhere near the 13 role in [iany[/i capacity. Choices like that really epitomise what is wrong with the side IMO.
And as for 'running role'... He was never quick. Now he barely gets above 'trundle'.'"
I agree with you Kosh. I like the idea of creative Loose Forwards but as a personal choice of Radford as a running LF or Washy as a creative one then my choice would be Radford.
I think Whiting is a better choice but I feel a derby game might not be the one to throw him into. We missed that boat today.
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| Lee is no good at decision making, which is why he has not been too bad this season because he hasn't had to make them!
Thorman was VERY poor today, Horne i thought was OK.
King was poor too, and not good enough IMO. Dunno why Thacks was dropped, warming up for tomorrow on sing-star?!
I agree with the Moa comments, he has shown good play but his fitness seems to be lacking and so having a knock-on effect on the other props having to do more work
HE NEED TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS! This is the most important thing that we are lacking!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"So you want a scrum half/first receiver who does nothing other than pass the ball to one of two players?
Sounds like a great plan to me.'"
Me too
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