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| To accommodate lee smith reading [url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Lee-Smith-s-Hull-FC-future-hangs-derby-date-Hull/story-28544034-detail/story.htmlTHIS[/url
So who will be making way? Has to be a player who can get a contract elsewhere as I can;t see us paying someone off so who? Wouldn't be surprised if it's rich whiting but maybe shaul if the rumours are true? Personally I think we have enough average backs and can't see any point in bringing another one in for the sake of it
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| I think it could be players on a season long loan, I personally don't see the need for signing Lee Smith as we have plenty of cover at FB and on the wings, Ok he can play centre also, but is he much better than Whiting or Yeaman there.
My worry is that if he signed he could potentially hold back a player like Lancaster and Naughton who are our future.
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| Would be gutted in one sense to see Whiting leave, but I doubt he will get much game time this year (injury permitting). Maybe its for the best for both parties.
How do the loans work with salary cap, as that could be another option for some of the younger guys?
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| I find it utterly incomprehensible that we're even considering signing Lee Smith.
WTH is going through Radford's mind?
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| Quote ="Kosh"I find it utterly incomprehensible that we're even considering signing Lee Smith.
WTH is going through Radford's mind?'"
My gut feeling is that he doesn't trust Shaul (don't know why tbh). He has taken him out of the team a few times now, most notably last year when he replaced him with Rankin. But like you say I don't quite get it especially if it means someone has to leave!
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| Had Bradford got into Super League - Naughton would be their now
Only signed a new one year deal with fc
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| Quote ="The Milky Bar Kid"Had Bradford got into Super League - Naughton would be their now
He signed a new one year deal in June, Bradford didn't play in the Million Pound game until September, so he would have been under contract at Hull, so doubt that to be true.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I find it utterly incomprehensible that we're even considering signing Lee Smith.
WTH is going through Radford's mind?'"
I slight over reaction
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| I still can't understand why we have to release players to accommodate Smith. Shortly after Westerman was sold Pearson stated on RH that he was going to invest the money on a quality outside back and Carney was a possibility if he fitted in with the rest of the squad. If we have anything left on the cap I think we should hold on to it in the event of an injury to Houghton.
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| Forgive my ingnorance but what are the rules with regardss to u23s. Are we able to play overage players.
I would see Whiting as the ideal man to captain that side and lead them around the park and be the calming head / coach on the park.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"I still can't understand why we have to release players to accommodate Smith. Shortly after Westerman was sold Pearson stated on RH that he was going to invest the money on a quality outside back and Carney was a possibility if he fitted in with the rest of the squad. If we have anything left on the cap I think we should hold on to it in the event of an injury to Houghton.'"
Maybe cash, and not cap, is the issue, with pass sales down 1000. Perhaps that wasn't foreseen when we were entertaining Carney.
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| The bottom line is we are massively top heavy in forwards and there are question marks rergarding a number of our supposed first choice back line.
Who honestly knows how the likes of Tuimavave are going to go and to a lesser extent Fonua. Talanoa has had niggling injuries for a lot of last season and Logan is still a rookie. I personally feel that Lancaster will break in at some point this season if he stays fit but he's another to be plagued.
So i can see why Radders is genuinly interested in Smith. He's only 29 and can offer us real flexibility.
Whiting shouldnt go anywhere. The club will find a post for him when he does hang his boots up if there's any justice or foresight. You don't need pace to be a top coach
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Maybe cash, and not cap, is the issue, with pass sales down 1000. Perhaps that wasn't foreseen when we were entertaining Carney.'"
I think you are spot on. However, if we did sign Carney or a player of his quality at that time we might have shifted more season passes!
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| After seeing him play yesterday I understand even less why we would want to sign him, he looked overweight and slow and I dont see what he offers over and above what we already have other than great kick-offs!
I think it goes back to our coach not really liking Jamie Shaul.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"After seeing him play yesterday I understand even less why we would want to sign him, he looked overweight and slow and I dont see what he offers over and above what we already have other than great kick-offs!
I think it goes back to our coach not really liking Jamie Shaul.'"
Or to be fair, it could be Shaul's attitude, which has been brought up a few times going all the way back to his time on loan at York.
I'm not really bothered either way about Smith. If he signs, it's an extra back providing cover for 1-5, a decent backup kicker and extra pressure on the starting 5 for a place. If he doesn't sign, nothing really lost. Can't be any worse than Michaels anyway.
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| we don't have much in the way of a back up kicker. perhaps this element to smith's game is more important
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| I don't mind Smith signing, my concern would be if any injury happened to Shaul or Fonua, would Radford (Like he has in the past) use Smith or the likes of Naughton and Lancaster.
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| Difficult to judge smith v Doncaster, no disrespect to the donny team
Can see him staying though as we are light in the backs
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| Looks to me from radford's comments that he will be staying and at least one will leave to accommodate. Doesn't look like he's talking about loaning anyone out to me but a permanent move
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| not sure about smith, but I remember the meltdown on here when we signed aspinwall mcgoldrick and feka,and they didn't turn out to bad
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| Michaels to go?
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| Lancaster has said he is open to a loan move if it helps his progress in hdm
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| A lot of the 19s lads are being fast tracked up too 23s to speed their progress and I think fash downes turgut and lancaster will possibly go on loans to championship clubs to do the same
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"I still can't understand why we have to release players to accommodate Smith. Shortly after Westerman was sold Pearson stated on RH that he was going to invest the money on a quality outside back and Carney was a possibility if he fitted in with the rest of the squad. If we have anything left on the cap I think we should hold on to it in the event of an injury to Houghton.'"
The reason is because we had to get rid of Westerman to be under the cap with our new signings, fans were totally misled/lied to, Motu Tony said we had space to be able to bring in a Carney level player which was/is a complete load of cobblers so we've next to no space under the cap as it stands.
It's got sod all to do with cash (he's a free agent), the simple fact is we are pretty much at the cap and would have been massively over if we had kept hold of Westerman, the intention was to sell him all the time otherwise why are we scrabbling around for the likes of Smith and considering loaning players out to fit him into the squad.
Frankly it's a disgrace if we sign Smith, it shows yet again no faith in the youth system and that we have people in the squad that were surplus to requirements last season never mind this, handing out new contracts to those that don't deserve them has come home to roost about now.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"The reason is because we had to get rid of Westerman to be under the cap with our new signings, fans were totally misled/lied to, Motu Tony said we had space to be able to bring in a Carney level player which was/is a complete load of cobblers so we've next to no space under the cap as it stands.
It's got sod all to do with cash (he's a free agent), the simple fact is we are pretty much at the cap and would have been massively over if we had kept hold of Westerman, the intention was to sell him all the time otherwise why are we scrabbling around for the likes of Smith and considering loaning players out to fit him into the squad.
Frankly it's a disgrace if we sign Smith, it shows yet again no faith in the youth system and that we have people in the squad that were surplus to requirements last season never mind this, handing out new contracts to those that don't deserve them has come home to roost about now.'"
Although I agree that Smith is a pointless signing, the rest of your post is just another example of you embarrassing yourself.
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