I've seen a few mentions of 2016 in recent threads and what would constitute failure or success for the club in Superleague.

So, for us as fans, what would we have to achieve to be a success, what would be deemed a failure and what would be just about punching our weight? Some of us will be more conservative, some realistic, some will only see a GF win as success maybe.

This is how I see 2016;

Failure:
Not making the top8, or making the top8 like this year and being too far adrift of top4.

Punching our weight:
I think 'on paper' we have a squad in the top6 of SL. 4th-6th after the regular rounds I think would be a fair expectation, and be in a position to be battling it out for a top4 place.

Success:
Finishing in the top4 (& whatever could happen in the playoffs).

making the super 8's is not a successful season in my eyes, although not making the super 8's would've been a failure.

but making the upper 8's and being so far behind the leading pack is not good. I think the club radders and pearson goal was to make the super 8's and see how you go from there. which is what has happened, only problem being, we gave ourselves to much to do to make top 4 for the play offs. so for the 2 named above, I think they will see it as a successful season. and look to go one better next season.

my thoughts, making super 8's was a bare minimum, but not a successful season. its been hard to watch this season, almost like a chore. I still feel with a coach who can get the very best out of the players, we could've been pushing for a top 4 spot, then when play offs start, its anyones game.

Offy's Final Thought - Failure

It was next year I was looking towards tbh.

Failure: Similar performance to 2015 (given that the squad is much improved for next season)

Punching our weight: Top 6 league standing and a good run in the CC

Sucess: Erm... Silverware?

with the players we have next season we SHOULD be heading higher...but much of the same I think

Top 6 and to be in contention of top 4 going into Super 8, and a real focus and assault on the challenge cup.

Anything less than top 6 is a big flop for me.

With our squad we should be in the top 6 at the end of the regular season next year (and in touch with the top 4) and anything less would be unacceptable IMO.

I think Leeds, Wigan and Saints will be the top three leaving Warrington, Huddersfield, Castleford and us fighting it out for 4th to 6th. As to where we will finish I think that depends on whether Castleford will continue to punch above their weight and whether Warrington are in some sort of decline or will bounce back from what looks like a disappointing end to this season.

A decent cup run would be good too.

Irrespective of where we finish what I would really like to see is some enterprising, exciting and entertaining rugby which is a pleasure to watch rather than a chore.

Definitely.

I was more after fans ideas regarding what would be a success or failure for the 2016 side in their eyes, rather than predictions, if that makes sense. Just to get a perspective of where we feel we should be.

I know this is a very big if, but if we'd beaten Castleford away early in the season, then we would have been equal 5th place, on points, this season.

I'd like to see us hit the ground running next year, use pre season effectively for once so that Radders knows his starting lineup before round 1 and we're not constantly tinkering and not building any consistency which then leaves us playing catchup for the rest of the season trying to catch the breakaway pack at the top of the league.

I'd consider a success to be a return to attacking rugby...drawing the fans back in, a cohesive team that has structure and composure to it, effective game management and reducing panic in the opposition's 20.

We should be aiming for at least 6th, but give it a real go to make the top 4...anything less and it will be another failure of a season and we'll be in the same position next year looking to 2017 with the "best squad yet" and "excellent recruitment" only for another season of disappointment!

a key thing for me will be Pryce & Sneyd have settled into the squad, especially Sneyd

Failure, 6th or lower, not getting close to the play-offs and not reaching the semi final in the cup
Acceptable, 4th or strong 5th close enough to get us into the play offs & CC semi final appearance
Success, 1st/2nd/3rd and maintaining one of those positions to the play offs, reaching final of the CC

The challenge cup predictions are silly, you need some luck and what it you draw Leeds away first round and have loads on injuries.

As others have said at least 6th, but be closer to the 4 for a real crack at the play offs. Leeds and Wigan should be top two, but don't think Leeds will be as strong, Sinfield and Peacock are massive for them and it depends if they sign a hooker or not. I reckon we have a really decent chance of the top 4.

Get what your saying about cup predictions Dave, but, nothing wrong with making it a real focus/goal from the start and making every sure every cup game is approached with a 'cup final' attitude.

Think most would agree finishing top or winning the GF is highly unlikely so in reality the CC is the only silverware to go for? In which case I want to see us spill blood in ever round trying to win it.

Granted Leeds away in 1st round may potentially ruin it anyway!

success would definately be top 4

would be expecting a top 6

anything less would be disappointing

not making the 8 would be failure

can't include the cup in this as a good run can depend on the luck of the draw

Surely by definition winning against SL opposition in the cup is what should be expected/classified as success no? Losing before getting to at least a semi final would be seen as failure, to look at it any other way is either defeatist or having no faith in the squad/coach

That team should definitely be in top 4 and by round 6 and we are doing crap then RL should go. we don't deserve to have those players if the coach can't make something of them. This will be his 3rd year and to be honest I can see no different to this year. To finish in Super 8 will be like this year. Great players does not make a great team unless you play as one.

We need a good solid start to our league campaign next year.
Winning only 2 from 8 this season left us behind the eight ball with ground to make up which made it really difficult for us.

Totally agree and the sad thing is had Hull started better they would have been up there still now contending as others were unusually poor such as Wire and Cas//Hudds/Cats at times.

We didn't have the easiest of the draw early doors, but still, it wasn't good enough.
Need to build momentum. Get the fans onside. Make the KC as difficult a place for away sides to come too as possible.
Radders and the players were under pressure after that poor start.
Think they deserved some credit for actually getting us into the 8 after such a shoddy start.
Top 6 minimum for me next season otherwise I'd show him the door same as I would have done if we hadn't made the 8 this year.

Yep, pretty much bang on.

After nilling Huddersfield it is a real shame the side didn't kick on but no point worrying now. Despite the doom and gloom merchants Hull have a great squad for next season, a good off field set up including coaches (no need for another bashing of the staff here) and some great Academy prospects ready to take their chance in the first team as so many have before them recently.

It is easy to blame Pearson for rolling out the same spin every season, and looking back it is probably justified but for once I actually think next year could be the one here Hull compete at the high end of the table and the smiles come back.

If that does not happen I think Radders will be the first to hold his hand up and fall on his sword.

I can hear the howls of derision from our more pessimistic forum members.


Also think and hope we could have a decent season next year.
I want Radders to succeed.
I like him.

Me too, I love the whole 'Team Hull' thing and if it worked it would be an amazing thing for not only Hull but the sport in general to see a squad and staff list made up of lads who understand the importance of the club in this area.

Plenty are gonna take some convincing though!!!

We have to improve our home form. We currently have just five wins from twelve this season which is poor.

Away from home in 2015 we have a better record than Wigan and Cas and as good as Saints. A better home record this year and we would have been pushing the top four.

Do you think the crowd play their part in this? Hostile and negative at times when things don't go their way?

Away from the KC Support is always top notch.