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| [url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC-s-Adam-Pearson-8216-good-need-desire/story-26403939-detail/story.htmlAccording to pearson[/url
Some worrying things in there - financial implications from being in the "middle tier" crowd wise?
Working hard as a coach seems to be enough despite you being completely incompetent.
Doubt I'll be renewing my pass next year even if we do manage to stay up
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| It's official - he's completely lost the plot.
Worrying times.
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| The article has actually confirmed my worst fears that Pearson is not going to change a thing and we are in for more misery. He just doesn't have a clue.
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| Mr Paerson WHY should we make a noise and spend our hard earned money ?????
Your players and coach give us nothing to get excited about, its there job to entertain and WIN games or at least compete.
I do not post on here much but this situation is just taking the urine now.
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| hmmm, no more excuses, having westerman and ellis out, and constantly changing the spine of the team hasn't helped! Make your mind up Adam
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| Shocking piece really.
Blame the players, excuses over injuries like no other team has them and to have a go about the stadium being a factor, somebody better tell Wigan they're not supposed to play well at home due to the size of the ground.
After all this and the continued stubborn backing of our inept coach despite realising performances have not been good enough he has the cheek to call on the fans.
Pearson also says there's nothing he can do to change what's happened but he can clearly effect what does happen from here on in if only he hadn't backed himself into a corner.
As long as Radford works hard but yet we remain sh1 t well that acceptable then. Complete joke.
It's obvious the fall in attendance and maybe even the e mails he has received may have prompted this outburst in the press but even now he must realise this rallying cry is pointless. People aren't going to return just because he's asked us in the hull daily mail.
He knows what he needs to do to improve performances and win fans back but has flat refused to do it.
Nice try Mr.Pearson but no thank you I'll be staying at home come Friday.
A win over a ravaged Salford side will do nothing to convince me.
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| Not sure what's controversial here.
Acknowledging performance concerns whilst asking fans to support the club.
Citing the upcoming game as important. Well we could reach the giddy heights of 9th depending on other results so yeah, it's important
Saying everyone including him need to have a word with themselves. Indeed.
Backing Radford. Not really advisable to publicly start pulling the rug from under him this week, is it?
I'm glad there's been an open recognition of the state we're in and am not party to what's been said internally obviously, but can't see what's inflammatory in what he's said. Were people expecting him to single out Radford as the only underperformer and say he's got one game to save his job? Or that stayaways have no financial impact on the club? Hmm..
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"Shocking piece really.
Blame the players, excuses over injuries like no other team has them and to have a go about the stadium being a factor, somebody better tell Wigan they're not supposed to play well at home due to the size of the ground.
After all this and the continued stubborn backing of our inept coach despite realising performances have not been good enough he has the cheek to call on the fans.
Pearson also says there's nothing he can do to change what's happened but he can clearly effect what does happen from here on in if only he hadn't backed himself into a corner.
As long as Radford works hard but yet we remain sh1 t well that acceptable then. Complete joke.
It's obvious the fall in attendance and maybe even the e mails he has received may have prompted this outburst in the press but even now he must realise this rallying cry is pointless. People aren't going to return just because he's asked us in the hull daily mail.
He knows what he needs to do to improve performances and win fans back but has flat refused to do it.
Nice try Mr.Pearson but no thank you I'll be staying at home come Friday.
A win over a ravaged Salford side will do nothing to convince me.'"
I have never wanted Radford as Captain, or head coach. I want him gone.
Yet - when Pearson blames the players I am sort of inclined to agree slightly, unless you believe that Radford is deliberately saying to players to not score tries. Surely some of the responsibility lies with them, after all, we get up the pitch seemingly with no drama at all!
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| Utterly speechless .. regarding AP's statement to the HDM.
"The coach is working as hard as he can & I am firmly behind him"
What if his training methods are wrong??, judging by the performances on the field, it looks as if the training methods are wrong.
Pearson is clueless.... we are nose-diving to oblivion.
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| Quote ="weaver93"Utterly speechless .. regarding AP's statement to the HDM.
"The coach is working as hard as he can & I am firmly behind him"
What if his training methods are wrong??, judging by the performances on the field, it looks as if the training methods are wrong.
Pearson is clueless.... we are nose-diving to oblivion.'"
What did you expect him to say in the papers two days before an important game? The coach is on the brink, sacked on Saturday if we lose?
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| I think there is a bigger problem. I don't believe AP is that blind, but I do think he is refusing to throw any more money at terminating contracts, including LR.
Which would suggest to me he's not prepared to spend anymore money on the club and he wants out, or he is actually skint (unlikely).
If I was AP I would want out, I don't really have any emotional tie to the club, it's losing money hand over fist as a business, I have failed several time to get it right despite lumping large amounts of money on players and coaches and can't afford to lose anymore, I'm losing the fan base, the latest coach I've employed is a luddite and causing me sleepless nights and the stadium we play in is ran by a megalomaniac.
The only option he has, and it's the one most of us want to see, is LR paid off and a 'top' coach come in - both off which require further investment from him and brings no guarantee of success. Isn't gonna happen.
Of course some will say well if he doesn't then no season tickets will be bought for next year and then he will be in financial trouble. Perhaps he already knows that and is working on an exit strategy? The Sheff Wed role could be part of that?
The article reads of desperation either way.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What did you expect him to say in the papers two days before an important game? The coach is on the brink, sacked on Saturday if we lose?'"
I expected him to keep his counsel....
Judging by his interview, I get the impression he will not change the
coach regardless of league position & performance.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Carr"I think there is a bigger problem. I don't believe AP is that blind, but I do think he is refusing to throw any more money at terminating contracts, including LR.
Which would suggest to me he's not prepared to spend anymore money on the club and he wants out, or he is actually skint (unlikely).
If I was AP I would want out, I don't really have any emotional tie to the club, it's losing money hand over fist as a business, I have failed several time to get it right despite lumping large amounts of money on players and coaches and can't afford to lose anymore, I'm losing the fan base, the latest coach I've employed is a luddite and causing me sleepless nights and the stadium we play in is ran by a megalomaniac.
The only option he has, and it's the one most of us want to see, is LR paid off and a 'top' coach come in - both off which require further investment from him and brings no guarantee of success. Isn't gonna happen.
Of course some will say well if he doesn't then no season tickets will be bought for next year and then he will be in financial trouble. Perhaps he already knows that and is working on an exit strategy? The Sheff Wed role could be part of that?
The article reads of desperation either way.'"
Good assessment. Pretty clear the sack Radford to bring in Smith and McNamara (or similar) scenario proposed by some is pure delusion.
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| Quote ="weaver93"I expected him to keep his counsel....
Judging by his interview, I get the impression he will not change the
coach regardless of league position & performance.'"
He's acknowledged performances aren't good enough and said everyone needs to man up. The "vote of confidence" in a coach (and the wording's not unequivocal, working hard isn't gushing praise) is hardly a new phenomenon.
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| Well that's me out for Friday , thanks Adam for making my mind up.
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| IF Pearson thinks the inclusion of Ellis & Westerman, will make us play
razzle dazzle champagne RL, he's badly mistaken -IMO.
IF, and thats a BIG IF, Radford was sacked, I'm fairly sure he
would either appoint Last or Horne... - or both.
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| I renewed my pass this season to support Adam Pearson. I was disappointed when Gentle was sacked, even more disappointed with Radford's appointment and didn't really enjoy a lot of last season's games.
Whilst I acknowledge Adam has to be careful what he says in the press if he really believes in half of what he says in that interview I won't be renewing next season.
I've responded to Adam's rallying cries once too often and now feel badly let down and disillusioned
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I have never wanted Radford as Captain, or head coach. I want him gone.
Yet - when Pearson blames the players I am sort of inclined to agree slightly, unless you believe that Radford is deliberately saying to players to not score tries. Surely some of the responsibility lies with them, after all, we get up the pitch seemingly with no drama at all!'"
I also believe some of the players need to take a look at themselves and if and I don't know for sure though that some of them like us have become disillusioned with Radford and his coaching methods would you perform to your full ability for a manager you had no confidence in?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not sure what's controversial here.
Acknowledging performance concerns whilst asking fans to support the club.
Citing the upcoming game as important. Well we could reach the giddy heights of 9th depending on other results so yeah, it's important
Saying everyone including him need to have a word with themselves. Indeed.
Backing Radford. Not really advisable to publicly start pulling the rug from under him this week, is it?
I'm glad there's been an open recognition of the state we're in and am not party to what's been said internally obviously, but can't see what's inflammatory in what he's said. Were people expecting him to single out Radford as the only underperformer and say he's got one game to save his job? Or that stayaways have no financial impact on the club? Hmm..'"
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I have never wanted Radford as Captain, or head coach. I want him gone.
Yet - when Pearson blames the players I am sort of inclined to agree slightly, unless you believe that Radford is deliberately saying to players to not score tries. Surely some of the responsibility lies with them, after all, we get up the pitch seemingly with no drama at all!'"
Pretty simplistic view that, if all a coach has to do is say 'go score loads of tries' and if the players don't then its their fault? If they do he's a genius. Think I could do that.
Think you need to look at what makes a top coach a top coach, motivation, training techniques, providing a nurturing environment, discipline, understanding and having a plan for the opposition, creating a playing ethos, hard work, financial backing and luck. Some people are cut out for this and others maybe aren't?
I listened to Radfords post match a few weeks ago after a loss and paraphrasing he said something along the lines of 'if you get in the positions to score enough times the team should score some points' I thought at the tiime that I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.
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| Iv'e been a big fan of Pearson and backed him all the way, but this has me really concerned and he is really starting to show he lacks rugby knowledge and hasn't been in the game long, if he thinks the problem is effort he is so far off, if he can't see the team selection, tactics and use of Subs is our biggest problem and he continues to back Radford then we are in big trouble and he is going to lose a lot of money.
Even if he is blaming the players then surely it is part Radfords fault for signing them or picking them?
You would hope Motu Tony would have a word and see it from a rugby perspective, but I reckon he is mates with Radford.
Long dark future ahead.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not sure what's controversial here.
Acknowledging performance concerns whilst asking fans to support the club.
Citing the upcoming game as important. Well we could reach the giddy heights of 9th depending on other results so yeah, it's important
Saying everyone including him need to have a word with themselves. Indeed.
Backing Radford. Not really advisable to publicly start pulling the rug from under him this week, is it?
I'm glad there's been an open recognition of the state we're in and am not party to what's been said internally obviously, but can't see what's inflammatory in what he's said. Were people expecting him to single out Radford as the only underperformer and say he's got one game to save his job? Or that stayaways have no financial impact on the club? Hmm..'"
No one has said its controversial or inflammatory what has got my goat is the fact he acknowledges everything we all already know, still backs a failing coach yet has the cheek to call on the fans to once again board this sinking ship paying money for a product no one is happy with and to get behind a coach most fans no longer want at the club.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not sure what's controversial here.'"
It doesn't have to be controversial to provoke concern. What the piece does is seemingly confirm many fans worst fears about how Pearson views the current situation. This isn't controversial, but it IS depressing.
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| [i"They are working incredibly hard to put things right at training."[/i
Oh well - that's ok then. Not like we've been hearing that line for the past 5 years is it?
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| To be fair, he doesn't actually say it's the players and not the coach. He says that the team need to show desire (which hints at the players, but in reality doesn't absolve the coaches of their part in bringing this out of players), and that the coaches are working hard to get things right (a passive admittance that they are currently not, whether he realised that or not).
There are some things I find worrying/distasteful, though. I don't like the slight dig at the fans. Frankly, with what you've delivered this season, you should just be thanking your lucky stars how many are still turning up and have put money in the coffers, not questioning how they are performing in the crowd. Several thousand are still paying/have paid to get in, just be grateful and concentrate on the 20 or so who are paid to be there doing their jobs before you start looking at others.
Middle tier of gates, gates no that big, well under 10,000. Feels like more thinly veiled scaremongering for fans to turn up, even with the acceptance of it being a reflection of performances.
As others have said, 'no excuses' right after providing some.
Coaches working hard is the minimum, it won't pacify fans until we're seeing fruits on the field. Pointless mentioning it, means nothing.
No point crying out in disappointment - what on earth is that about? It's a reaction to how things are, it's not necessarily about whether or not there's a point to it. Equally there's no point cheering and praising after a win, as the result is already taken care of, but I can't imagine him appealing to us to keep quiet in those circumstances. You have to bear the criticism as much as the praise, you can't be selective.
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