Who else reckons the derby debacle was our turning point...since then we have got better and better,are playing as a team and have only lost the once.Sooner be in our position now than what rovers are.

100% bang on pal

Sort of. Shaul's try at Wakefield felt disproportionately important after our start in that game was a continuation of the Good Friday shambles.

The next 3 games are an important indicator for me. We need to beat Wakefield, man up against Warrington (don't expect a win, but a performance) and beat Rovers for an extremely rare Magic 2 points. Otherwise we'll be out of the cup and back scrapping for 8th.

It was the game on April Fools day that changed our fortunes around.
It's always small margins between success and failure.
Looked like we were gonna lose that one early doors and we really would have been in -street.

Fair play to the players and coaching staff.

I think it was getting 8 players back from Injury, everyone knows you cant win with 8-9 1st teamers out, as was mentioned every 3.5 seconds post match today.



But that aside, yes.

Just beat me to it Mrs B.

No shame in that, son.

Go steady.
I'm into the fuller more voluptuous type.

Precious, isn't he? Never made a mistake in 2 seasons, always things outwith his control.

To me the team that loses the derby seems to come out the better in the coming games in 2011 we lost to rovers then went and won our next 3 games while rovers lost there next 2. In 2010 we beat rovers then we went and lost our next 3 games while rovers went and won there next 2. Now this year we lost to rovers and we have gone on to win 5 out of our last 6 matches and the loss was against Wigan and we gave it all against them and if we had full team we probably would have won while rovers have lost 4 of their 6 games since beating us.

We've had better weather lately also. Gentle did say we will play better when grounds harden.

There has been a huge change since the derby, and the opening of the Wakey game.

Not sure what's happened, but i like it.

And the irony of the "you're getting sacked in the morning" chant from the dobbins fans to gentle at the derby

Think Sandercock would do better at Hull than Gentle has, according to his post match interviews he's done nothing wrong it's all the refs' fault, and the weather, and the pitch, and injuries. He must be a supercoach

Don't forget to many games over Easter.

Performances have definately improved since the derby but I wouldn't say a turning point. Lose to Wire and Rovers and we are back around 8/9th.

That's true we need at least one win from the 2 wire away don't expect a win and rovers at the magic weekend well lets just say there is never anything magic about it for us.

Just need to turn up in a derby game for a change.
We are better than them so we should be beating them!

2 wins from the next 4 should be achievable

I hope so!

I couldnt take another Good Friday and to lose the momentum we have built up recently with another inept Derby display would be gut wrenching and potentially derailing!

You are right though, we should be beating them with everyone fit.

we also need to be mindful that other teams are beating sides we'd normally not expect them to, so our league position isn't [iall[/i down to us.

This is an original slant on negativity,but basically unless you win every match you're league position is affected by other teams.

Im not being negative, I am just stating a fact, would anyone have thought Widnes would beat Saints if asked at the start of the season, for example?

We're definitely improving, and we have more improvement in us.

I agree with the OP, despite our injuries...Gentle got his tactics and team selection completely wrong on Good Friday, that 1-man barge down the middle stuff was never going to beat anyone.

Pleased to say that since then he has thrown the tactics out of the window and found a style that suits us, and now that key players like Ellis and Holdsworth are back we are looking a world away from that display.