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| what did he do to go on report
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| high tackle i think?
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| Not sure because I never even saw him make contact! I just saw Ellis make a big hit
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| saw a big ellis tackle, then the lad he tackled come into contact with moa's nose.
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| after that i thought moa went off the boil,brilliant before
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| what's the odds he will get a ban?? RFL are a joke hope Mr bridge will be there this week!
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| I can see him getting another ban, and again if the player wasn't down injured it would have been a non-story. Moa's feet came off the ground going for a big hit but need to see it again. Didn't see quite what was wrong with it, just another Ganson rule I think.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I can see him getting another ban, and again if the player wasn't down injured it would have been a non-story. Moa's feet came off the ground going for a big hit but need to see it again. Didn't see quite what was wrong with it, just another Ganson rule I think.'"
Think it was more to do with the quick take down from Ellis
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Think it was more to do with the quick take down from Ellis'"
yes,thats how i saw it,i think the players head maybe came into contact with Moa's knee,purely accidental due to as you say,the ultra quick take down from behind by Ellis.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Think it was more to do with the quick take down from Ellis'"
As I say, need to see it again. Ganson was a joke at times again today, the man is a royal nob.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"As I say, need to see it again. Ganson was a joke at times again today, the man is a royal nob.'"
I didn't think he was too bad to be honest,a few strange interpretations on the charge downs and back to 6,ignoring the ingoal touch judge to dissallow a try was also a bit odd. Also seemed a very skinny 10 metres.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"As I say, need to see it again. Ganson was a joke at times again today, the man is a royal nob.'"
I loved it when they charged down and hull looked at him for decision and he put he's hands up as if to say i don't know! then just thought all on will do ha ha joke!
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| He has his own rule book and makes things up for every game. I've noticed that when the crowd shout for a dubious penalty, he gives it. If he gives a penalty against and the crowd shout in disbelief, he gives another against just in badness. What brain cells he has lost, he gains with weight. He must surely be unfit to provide a sufficient refereeing standard.
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| It's about time the RFL sorted these ref out .If a player had a bad game he get drop
But this lot of refs can have a sh-t game but still they get another game next week
Sam Moa was unlucky Ellis put in a great tackle the player went straight down Sam was coming across and
he when over the top of both players but he caught the Wakey player with his trailing foot .That how I saw it.
It was accidental .Sam was committed to the tackle
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| I am very, very worried that the RFL reffing hierarchy are trying to "make a Lauaki" out of Moa.
Lauaki was ruined for Hull (though I'm sure he'll do brilliantly at Wigan) by having his aggression and confidence undermined by referees determined to treat him by his "reputation" rather than his actions.
I'm scared Sam is the new whipping boy and I thought his confidence went after the laughable "on report". Cockend's ridiculous high shot was merely penalised and Briscoe also nearly had his head took off with no bat of the eyelid from Ganson.
I think Hull should be proactive in this and approach Red Hall with their concerns before the next game. They should ask why Moa's actions are pounced upon so readily while other much more intentional and dirty fouls are ignored. Aside from the fact that this is penalising Hull, this is a man's reputation and career at stake.
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| Quote ="kt170496"It's about time the RFL sorted these ref out .If a player had a bad game he get drop
But this lot of refs can have a sh-t game but still they get another game next week
[uSam Moa was unlucky Ellis put in a great tackle the player went straight down Sam was coming across and
he when over the top of both players but he caught the Wakey player with his trailing foot .That how I saw it. [/u
It was accidental .Sam was committed to the tackle'"
Thats what i thought happened from behind the posts, it did look like accidental contact.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I am very, very worried that the RFL reffing hierarchy are trying to "make a Lauaki" out of Moa.
Lauaki was ruined for Hull (though I'm sure he'll do brilliantly at Wigan) by having his aggression and confidence undermined by referees determined to treat him by his "reputation" rather than his actions.
I'm scared Sam is the new whipping boy and I thought his confidence went after the laughable "on report". Cockend's ridiculous high shot was merely penalised and Briscoe also nearly had his head took off with no bat of the eyelid from Ganson.
I think Hull should be proactive in this and approach Red Hall with their concerns before the next game. They should ask why Moa's actions are pounced upon so readily while other much more intentional and dirty fouls are ignored. Aside from the fact that this is penalising Hull, this is a man's reputation and career at stake.'"
We said the same about Moa, could be a tough ride for him..
I have been watching Lauaki's progress (I love that player!! ) and you are right he is going well
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"We said the same about Moa, could be a tough ride for him..
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Honestly, Marfa, I could cry. It was so obvious that Lauaki couldn't produce his best for Hull - simply because it was Hull that he was playing for - because the powers that be weren't having it.
I knew it'd be different at Wigan. He'll be immense.
It's criminal if it's allowed to happen again with Sam.
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| The fact that a penalty wasn't awarded suggests to me that Ganson or either of the touchjudges didn't actually see what had happened.
Surely if Ganson had seen the incident and witnessed foul play then he would have awarded a penalty?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"[uHonestly, Marfa, I could cry.[/u It was so obvious that Lauaki couldn't produce his best for Hull - simply because it was Hull that he was playing for - because the powers that be weren't having it.
I knew it'd be different at Wigan. He'll be immense.
It's criminal if it's allowed to happen again with Sam.'"
Same, fancy letting a bloke who wears flip flops in the snow go, doubt I will ever get that vision out of my head, I loved that man
Checked today he played well again ...and we now have to go find a big dirty b***d prop from somewhere!!
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| For me there was nothing in it and as Hutchie said it was just the quick take down by Ellis and Moa may have caught the Wakey player but marginal as he didnt seem to make much contact. The only reason he was put on report is the fact the Wakey player stayed down and as it was Sam who has just served a ban then his previous has come into play with Ganson.
I hope the club ask the RFL and Cummings as to why Ganson felt the need to put Moa on report and the touch judge to come on for that and Tony Martins tackle yet he let Wakefield off with 4 head shots before deciding to have a word and the TJ never came on once for the half dozen head shots Wakey put on in the game?
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| Quote ="chico's nose"The fact that a penalty wasn't awarded suggests to me that Ganson or either of the touchjudges didn't actually see what had happened.
Surely if Ganson had seen the incident and witnessed foul play then he would have awarded a penalty?'"
Don't think either of them saw anything wrong with it, and it was put on report more because of the Wakefield players whinging (led by Washbrook I think). Think people are being harsh on Ganson for this one, like you say, it's not like he penalised us or anything.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Don't think either of them saw anything wrong with it, and it was put on report more because of the Wakefield players whinging (led by Washbrook I think). Think people are being harsh on Ganson for this one, like you say, it's not like he penalised us or anything.'"
Led by the gob-e that is Mathers
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Led by the gob-e that is Mathers'"
It was him and Washy, little cry babies the pair of them.
See he also got away with 3 high shots, then claimed Moa had murdered Southern.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Don't think either of them saw anything wrong with it, and it was put on report more because of the Wakefield players whinging (led by Washbrook I think). Think people are being harsh on Ganson for this one, like you say, it's not like he penalised us or anything.'"
Thing is if he ant seen out he should not put him on report. just because wakfiled say so.
once a player is on report there is a chance of him getting a ban. If the ref does not see it he should not make the call. if anything dirty has been done can be picked up in the match review.
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