since his return to wests he has been in woeful form. i've watched his last 2 games and he's missed kicks through leading to 3 tries for the opposition, and was so bad in one game he was shifted onto the wing, where he made yet another error leading to a try. hope this is not a sign of things to come and he's just suffering from the general malaise the whole tigers team (ellis excepted) seem to be going through at the moment. something going badly wrong at the tigers at the moment

anyone else worried?

Nope the guy is class, all players suffer dips in form as do teams... he is a class act and we are extremely lucky to have secured his services

PS seen some outstanding VT on Heremia recently too, his kicking game is outstanding

Definitely worried, think he is a waste of a quota spot. But we will just have to wait and see.

I'd go along with those sentiments having watched his last two performances - I see he's been dropped this week for Tim Moltzen who caused a ripple last week by signing for St George. You have to give the bloke the benefit of the doubt because he isn't even here yet but he's not shown anything that makes him look like a quality signing.

Cameron Phelps returns the ball a lot stronger than McKinnon and I don't think there's a massive difference in quality between the two of them. Maybe McKinnon has taken his eye off the ball because he knows he's coming here for the next three years but even that's a bad sign. I really hope he turns out to be a good acquisition and obviously Richard Agar has seen something in him that isn't that visible to the naked eye when you're watching Premier Sports!

As for the assertion that he's a 'class act' I think we have to reserve judgement on that Mr Icecreamman.

clearly you have never seen him play

Ah we talking about "in the past" , sadly we play the game in the present.

Maybe if we're talking about 'the past' he should have signed for Rovers

two games in which the wholoe team under performed make him a bad player mmmmmmmm!
leave it with you mate

Were did i say he was a bad player?

Time will tell - I'm just not over enamoured with what I've seen so far from one of our big signings for 2012.

The guy is a really good signing and him been out of form isn't a worry at all. Every player has ups and downs as do teams. I think he will be awesome for us next season if he stays fit, and will add another diemension to our attacking play.

McKinnon and Heremia have both been pretty average to put it politely this season however this may be the standard of over seas players we are going to see in the coming years.

There could also be an element of him already knowing he is moving on, it's a bit harsh to criticise him when he's not even pulled an FC shirt on, judge him from game 6 next season I say.

Clearly , You haven't seen his last couple of games.

If we play the game in the present then why was you so worried earlier in the thread.

As for McKinnon - I ain't worried at all, he's not the worst that's played for Wests over the last few weeks.

hes had a dip in form since he left parra

I can't give any criticism towards McKinnon at all because I've never seen much of him. However, the thing that worries me is his recent injury record.


For me, I'd have liked to have seen Phelps stay. I'm a fan of Phelps because he runs the ball back strongly and fits into the attacking line well, and doesn't worry me under a highball. He also seems to put some effort in and comes across as a genuinly nice guy, which is always a good thing.

People have 2 bad games, O'Meley had a terrible season nevermind the odd bad game in 2009 yet is one of the best props in the SL.

Bit harsh writing him off on two poor games.

Quite unsual for RLFans, that.

So your judging him on his last couple of games? What about when Briscoe was out of form this season, was you saying how bad a player he is?

Inglis the best player in the world has been out of form at Souths iirc, yet you wouldn't judge him.

Haven't slept for weeks worrying.

not been great last 2 game games but dosent concern me at all he will be a class player for us when he plays and thats my only issue is the injury record

Is anybody writing him off? I see people voicing concerns and rightly so.

I'm more bothered about his age and injury record than how he's played the last couple of weeks. I'd guess he's costing a lot more than phelps