well,i sent my thoughts to mr.rule as to what i think about the coach and the way the team is playing,and i got a swift reply.according to him the board is doing what they think is best for thee fans,and he and the board believe that agar is the man for the job,that is why they have given him a 2 year extension.s load of bullshict.

Surprised he didn't email back and say he agreed with you and wished they'd never extended his contract.

Next time, save yourself teh bother and just start banging your head against a brick wall

well he`s hardly going to slag off Agar just after giving him a 2 year deal is he.

hardly a surprising response from him, as jake says you're better off banging your head against the wall. It must be bad for his soul though having to constantly tell lies in order to keep his job!

on kath's orders???

What really annoys me about the contract extension is that it was way too early. If any fan had used the first few games of the season as a basis for sacking the coach Rule would have basically told us we are mad and the coach needs time etc. How on earth the board thought Agar had done enough by that point to warrant the extension I have no idea. All this talk of signing up players etc is bollox as well, if that was a consideration he should have been given the extension pre-season as a decision can not be made on those relatively few games so they might as well have made the decision pre-season.

Its not as if Agar is regarded as a catch it terms of his coaching ability so if he did accept the England job it would be easy to replace to his standard and not difficult to recruit to a much higher standard. Agar has had plenty of time at the club and supposedly cleared out the deadwood/trouble makers and yet we still see the same unacceptable performances. He is still making the same mistakes and his blind devotion to "senior" players is pathetic and shows he doesn't have the mental toughness needed to make the big decisions that are vital for a head coach to make.

Hull have backed Agar in terms of his recruitment policy and his contract. They have taken the view that he will produce the goods if given the right kind of backing. This will also be partly down to the Franchise situation and the fact that teams are looking more longer term than just having quick fixes. I personally would not have extended his contract and looked to bring in a fresh team at the end of the season. The thing is he is our coach and he and the players need our support, right now we are doing it tough with our injuries and some of his decisions and tactics (or lack of) are very frustrating but constantly calling for the blokes head is a waste of time.

If we don't finish in the 8 then I would say he will get the bullet regardless of his contract and deservedly so but right now we are still in the hunt for the top 6 so lets see where we end up rather than having kneejerk reactions to every game we play whether it's a win or a loss.

Wigan have looked poor in the last two seasons at this stage yet both times came within a whisker of the GF, we are capable of getting better and maybe we will or maybe we won't. Either way Agar is going nowhere until at least the end of the season.

Edited for simplicity.

In which case the sanity of James and the board should be questionned.

a very sensible post that is probably wasted on this lot on here

Sensible indeed and not wasted, just some of us have differing views and are fed up of giving a very average coach chance after chance to prove his averageness. I'm fed up of hearing his excuses about it not been his team, injuries, poor performances etc etc.

Ultimately as our head coach the buck has to stop with him as it has previous head coaches and we've looked nothing short of ordinary with Agar in charge performance wise. I could take getting beat with a patched up side out there if we put in the effort and enthusiasm as shown through our defensive linespeed and winning the wrestle but we dont get that. We get half ars*d performances because our head coach does not have a clue how to built a team or coach the technical aspects of the game.

ha a sensible reply and i agree with alot of your point as im sure the previous poster does too. I just dont think we have a god given right to be a top 4 team and to improve so rapidly after the past few seasons.

Attacking wise for me this year we have made alot of progress (not in all games) and our defence and line defence has worked hard (once again not in all games). I dont mind losing thats not the problem, for me its the effort and commitment that dissapoints me and in the manner that we lose. In edinburgh i was so dissapointed at the way they turned up and just went through their motions.

Finishing 8th-6th for me as i said at the start of the season would be an improvement and a step forward to our tagets and goals

Woohoo! Another Agar thread!

nearly as boring as the politics threads on the sin bin!

I've heard that there's a hook in the FC toilet for all fans' correspondence in case they run out of toilet roll

Thats funny i think i got the same reply and i had a right rant about various things about Agar
It just goes to show they are not listening to us , take our money and we get stuffed ,well thats me done they have pushed me to far , no season tickets next season and all the extras that go with it ,must be worth at least £1,000 a year for a family of 4 , shirts , 18th man, pies etc
No more i could a great week in Spain for that and come back happy and relaxed

Well I wrote to express my concern about about what I perceived was a premature contract extension, and my concern this was done when in fact Agars win ratio had not improved, and I offered stats to back up my concern.
I wrote it from my work computer so will not know the reply till tomorrow, so will report back, however I am pretty sure it is just a generic response.

Sorry but I disagree.
I have supported the FC since 1960. I have always been willing to accept bad times. I am ok with poor performances and mediocracy when going through a period, in which many circumstances are out the clubs hands.

The board can solve the problems on the field, or at least be seen to try and do so.
They have decided to take the urine out of the fans loyalty to the club.
By saying that we need to just keep on blindly supporting them, is playing right into their hands. The decision to firstly employ Agar and then to give him a contract extension, is because of the fans unquestionable loyalty.

As long as we are willing to continue to unquestionably support the club, then they are going to continue to royally mug the loyal mugs.

Do you really think so? I think we could finish bottom and he'd still keep his job.

I do, outside the 8 will mean he goes I reckon. Kath is not stupid and knows her stuff depsite what most people think about her.

Another sensible post which I find myself agreeing with in the main.

If she knew her stuff, his contract wouldn't have been extended in the first place. There will always be excuses as to why we didn't finish higher.

A lack of bums on seats is the only way they will realise we are unhappy. We can bombard with e-mails, chant at games and even leave games early. All of that stuff can be brushed under the carpet with a bit of spin, a lack of numbers at the KC would swiftly remind that sack of who really pays there wages and who really keeps them in a job!

I still think the best way would be to boycott the saints game, club shops alike. As long as the till is still ringing and the club keeps a SL license, they are not going to act drastically to sort there mess out.

I've being toying with the idea all week now and I reckon I'm going in the way of not attending any more games under this regime. Rather spend my money on going to festivals or a night out with the lads then wasting it to watch the same old rubbish every week.

Got the same reply, waste of time, but was good to have a good rant after the weekends performance.