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| dosn't look good will be missed.
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| Ok, nothing special so far this season apart from the first game and a couple of runs.
If I could get rid of any quota player for next season to sign a halfback he would be the one who would go.
Wont miss his disapilne or lack of it.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Ok, nothing special so far this season apart from the first game and a couple of runs.
If I could get rid of any quota player for next season to sign a halfback he would be the one who would go.
Wont miss his disapilne or lack of it.'"
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| I'd rather lose Cusack and Fitzgibbon and Berrigan. And as for lack of discipline, there's worse offenders than him in the team and as a second row forward he brings more to the team that people like Radford etc.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Ok, nothing special so far this season apart from the first game and a couple of runs.
If I could get rid of any quota player for next season to sign a halfback he would be the one who would go.
Wont miss his disapilne or lack of it.'"
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"agreed'"
Couldn't disagree more. If coached properly he has the ability to be as big a handful as Manu has been this year, and the potential to be a gamebreaker.
But thats our fans at the minute " Radford - get rid too predictable... then it's ..Hame - get rid too unpredictable".
With a good coach our squad would push for honours, with Agar in chagre we are pushing Salford to win most dis-organised.
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| 9 penalties in 11 games is pretty good considering he is supposed to be a loose cannon with discipline problems. When you compare with Washbrook who has 6 penalties in 4 games before yesterday.
I think people have decided to believe the bad press other supporters have put around about him, without actually looking at the facts.
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| Quote ="hullbg"9 penalties in 11 games is pretty good considering he is supposed to be a loose cannon with discipline problems. When you compare with Washbrook who has 6 penalties in 4 games before yesterday.
I think people have decided to believe the bad press other supporters have put around about him, without actually looking at the facts.'"
Spot on. Plus expecting him to score tries like the one at Saints every time he plays.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Ok, nothing special so far this season apart from the first game and a couple of runs.
If I could get rid of any quota player for next season to sign a halfback he would be the one who would go.
Wont miss his disapilne or lack of it.'"
Cusack Berro or Fitz?
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| Quote ="hullbg"9 penalties in 11 games is pretty good'"
It's very good for a player of his like and es on the bonfires of those who claim he is a penalty machine. He was missed yesterday for sure. Calf injuries are bad he could be out for a while.
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| Quote ="hullbg"9 penalties in 11 games is pretty good considering he is supposed to be a loose cannon with discipline problems. When you compare with Washbrook who has 6 penalties in 4 games before yesterday.
I think people have decided to believe the bad press other supporters have put around about him, without actually looking at the facts.'" Agreed.
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| Quote ="Benny Elias"Couldn't disagree more. If coached properly he has the ability to be as big a handful as Manu has been this year, and the potential to be a gamebreaker.
But thats our fans at the minute " Radford - get rid too predictable... then it's ..Hame - get rid too unpredictable".
With a good coach our squad would push for honours, with Agar in chagre we are pushing Salford to win most dis-organised.'"
Hame is a penalty machine, and a wild cannon, I said that pre season and I stick by that, He wont ever IMO be like Manu, Willie gets tackled is tough gets back up plays the game and doesnt gives numerous penalties away in the process unlike Hame
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"Hame is a penalty machine, and a wild cannon, I said that pre season and I stick by that, He wont ever IMO be like Manu, Willie gets tackled is tough gets back up plays the game and doesnt gives numerous penalties away in the process unlike Hame'"
9 pens in 11 games isnt numerous.......Radford,Tickle and Washbrook are all worse...but dont let facts get in the way.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"Cusack Berro or Fitz?'"
Cusack will be going anyway.
Fitz you have to be joking far better player and important to the team, if people think that lauaki is better they need to stop watching rugby, Berrigan has been hit and miss, I will play him at centre and sign a hooker.
A lot of Lauaki penalties had been really stupid I can think of at least 3 times he has conceded a penalty when we have the ball.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Cusack will be going anyway.
Fitz you have to be joking far better player and important to the team, if people think that lauaki is better they need to stop watching rugby, Berrigan has been hit and miss, I will play him at centre and sign a hooker.
A lot of Lauaki penalties had been really stupid I can think of at least 3 times he has conceded a penalty when we have the ball.'"
Fitz is a better player yes but i wouldnt re-new...age and picking up injuries now and money can be spent elsewhere and Washy or Whiting to play 13.
You mean the ones against rovers....Hame could be a bloody handfull if he is coached right.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Cusack will be going anyway.
Fitz you have to be joking far better player and important to the team, if people think that lauaki is better they need to stop watching rugby, Berrigan has been hit and miss, I will play him at centre and sign a hooker.
A lot of Lauaki penalties had been really stupid I can think of at least 3 times he has conceded a penalty when we have the ball.'"
Fitzgibbon and Lauaki are 2 completely different types of forwards, neither can do the each others job, so you're talking bollox.
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"Fitzgibbon and Lauaki are 2 completely different types of forwards, neither can do the each others job, so you're talking bollox.'"
Your right Fitzgibbon can tackle.
They both play backrow and can be compared, if you had to only keep one would you keep Lauaki over Fitz, if so you have been watching a different game to me, fully fit squad and Lauaki wouldnt be in my 17.
If you are happy Lauaki this season, you must be easily pleased, maybe ring Agar and ask him to give him a new contract.
Lauaki has been average this year apart from the first game.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Fitz is a better player yes but i wouldnt re-new...age and picking up injuries now and money can be spent elsewhere and Washy or Whiting to play 13.
You mean the ones against rovers....Hame could be a bloody handfull if he is coached right.'"
Also one against Huddersfield which they scored off.
Fitz has missed a few games, less than Tickle who everyone wants to keep, would have played more if Agar gave him a break (same as Tickle).
You might be right about a different coach but that is unlikly to happen at the moment.
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| And so can Lauaki, but you obviously only see what you want to. Would I give Lauaki a new contract, yes I would. He's only 25 for starters. Used in the right way with the a new coach he would be totally devastating. He is an inpact forward, not like Fitz who can play for 80 mins and tackle for 80. Get Rid of Lauaki and who would our inpact forwards be, Props would be O'Meley and Moa, and second row would be Manu, that's it. Tickle, Radford, Fitz, are just workhorses, they simply don't bring the physicality that Lauaki does.
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"And so can Lauaki, but you obviously only see what you want to. Would I give Lauaki a new contract, yes I would. He's only 25 for starters. Used in the right way with the a new coach he would be totally devastating. He is an inpact forward, not like Fitz who can play for 80 mins and tackle for 80. Get Rid of Lauaki and who would our inpact forwards be, Props would be O'Meley and Moa, and second row would be Manu, that's it. Tickle, Radford, Fitz, are just workhorses, they simply don't bring the physicality that Lauaki does.'"
Not sure what age has to do with it and how you would give him a contract on what he has done so far is beyond belief. One impact backrow is enough. The top teams seem to survive with only one, so dont see why we need two. Hopfully next season we will sign a least one new prop with good go foraward, to add to the ones you mentioned.
In a perfect world I would keep Lauaki because he could prove a very useful player, but if we could make a quota spot to sign a top halfback I would keep O Meley, Moa, Berrigan (just) and Fitz before Lauaki.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not sure what age has to do with it and how you would give him a contract on what he has done so far is beyond belief. One impact backrow is enough. The top teams seem to survive with only one, so dont see why we need two. Hopfully next season we will sign a least one new prop with good go foraward, to add to the ones you mentioned.
In a perfect world I would keep Lauaki because he could prove a very useful player, but if we could make a quota spot to sign a top halfback I would keep O Meley, Moa, Berrigan (just) and Fitz before Lauaki.'"
If we are talking about wasted quota spots, we should have kept King and ditched Cusack
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| Undecided on who i would get rid of quota wise. Fitz although a great player is aging and he may become a liability rather than an asset. Berro has failed to live up to the hype as well. Lauaki not as good as some are saying but if he is coached properly and given a gameplan to work to SHOULD turn into a great forward.
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| Hame is just the type of player that we have been crying out for over recent years. He's big, powerful, aggressive, and with ball in hand, he's actually a very skillful player. Yes he has abit of a short-temper and is guilty of ill-discipline at times, but he has been a stand out performer for us this season. Last year everyone was complaining how 'weak' and 'soft' our pack was, and that we needed to be meaner and more physical, well that is why Lauaki was brought in, and for people to say that he wouldnt be missed are just complete hypocrits imo.
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| we will see how much he will be missed.looks like he's gonna be out for a few weeks.
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"If we are talking about wasted quota spots, we should have kept King and ditched Cusack'"
When did King last have a good season? 2004 or 2005?
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