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| It really, really narks me sitting around supporters who have no idea about the rules
1. Tansey drops on a kick and doesnt get up, Bulls players stand over him without touching him, Tansey realises he is about to be penalised for a voluntary tackle and tries to get up, Bulls players drag him into touch, no problem........boooo!!
2. Calderwood injured, Luauki warms up and is ready to come on, knock on = scrum, people around me complaining that the ref wont let us make the sub even though you cant make a sub at a scrum.....boooo!!
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"It really, really narks me sitting around supporters who have no idea about the rules
1. Tansey drops on a kick and doesnt get up, Bulls players stand over him without touching him, Tansey realises he is about to be penalised for a voluntary tackle and tries to get up, Bulls players drag him into touch, no problem........boooo!!
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I think they were booing because of the rule change this season which states it is a penalty if a player is dragged into touch. The players seemed to be saying the same to the ref, so maybe they don't know the rules either? |
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Not if the momentum is not lost in the tackle
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"It really, really narks me sitting around supporters who have no idea about the rules
1. Tansey drops on a kick and doesnt get up, Bulls players stand over him without touching him, Tansey realises he is about to be penalised for a voluntary tackle and tries to get up, Bulls players drag him into touch, no problem........boooo!!
2. Calderwood injured, Luauki warms up and is ready to come on, knock on = scrum, people around me complaining that the ref wont let us make the sub even though you cant make a sub at a scrum.....boooo!!
If you are going to spend the money on a season pass, you would have thought that you would at least learn the rules.......rant over
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Nothing wrong with that. Surely Bradford should have had a penalty when Turner smashed Reardon into touch. Your no longer allowed to tackle players into touch are you?... |
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You forgot the ball being pulled out by us one on one but then knocking it on giving them another set.... more booing and another demonstration that a large portion of spectators don't know how to 'Slow clap' SLOWLY.
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"It really, really narks me sitting around supporters who have no idea about the rules
1. Tansey drops on a kick and doesnt get up, Bulls players stand over him without touching him, Tansey realises he is about to be penalised for a voluntary tackle and tries to get up, Bulls players drag him into touch, no problem........boooo!!
2. Calderwood injured, Luauki warms up and is ready to come on, knock on = scrum, people around me complaining that the ref wont let us make the sub even though you cant make a sub at a scrum.....boooo!!
If you are going to spend the money on a season pass, you would have thought that you would at least learn the rules.......rant over
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The Tansey one made me laugh, people clearly don't know the rules. |
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Nothing wrong with that. Surely Bradford should have had a penalty when Turner smashed Reardon into touch. Your no longer allowed to tackle players into touch are you?...'"
I'm not sure if your ageeing with me or not?........I'm saying that there was nothing wrong with it, those around me thought differently |
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| Quote ="Arsenic kneel co"You forgot the ball being pulled out by us one on one but then knocking it on giving them another set.... more booing and another demonstration that a large portion of spectators don't know how to 'Slow clap' SLOWLY.'"
HA HA I forgot about that...although I did see it on the TV after going to the bar |
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"Not if the momentum is not lost in the tackle'"
I think it's the inconsistency once again. Hull got penalised for a similar one a week or two ago, then no penalty was given last night. It's a stupid rule and one the players were clearly confused by as well. |
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There's loads of em,as soon as something happens that they don't like it's the refs fault. Although i did think dragging into touch in a gang tackle had been outlawed once a foot was off the ground.
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TBH I thought the rule change this season was about using a leg as a lever in the tackle. Once one foot is off the ground held is now called
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| Quote ="BESTY"There's loads of em,as soon as something happens that they don't like it's the refs fault. Although i did think dragging into touch in a gang tackle had been outlawed once a foot was off the ground.'"
I wasnt aware that his foot was off the ground |
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| Quote ="Arsenic kneel co"You forgot the ball being pulled out by us one on one but then knocking it on giving them another set.... more booing and another demonstration that a large portion of spectators don't know how to 'Slow clap' SLOWLY.'"
I saw that as us stripping the ball one on one then the ball went backwards and the Bradford player picked it up. Nothing wrong with it at all bt everyone around me was baying for the refs blood.
When Tansey was dragged into touch i feel that is more to do with the inconsitencies, the rule IIRC is if a players leg is lifted then the tackle is deemed complete??
But i think the main thing is to do with the amount of time allowed to wrestle at the ptb it gets spectators backs up and then any slight thing sets them off. |
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Dragging tackled players as opposed to pushing them
Interpretation:Where opponents do not make a tackle effective in the quickest possible manner but then attempt to drag an opponent into touch or back towards his own in goal area then the referee should immediately call held.
Application: This does not prevent players driving an opponent into touch or back into his own in goal area providing that a team mate of the ball carrier has not added their weight to the tackle. As soon as the referee sees a tackling player dragging the ball carrier in a tackle that involves more than one tackler he will call "held". If the tackling players continue to move the ball carrier after the "held" call they should be penalised.
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Dragging tackled players as opposed to pushing them
Interpretation:Where opponents do not make a tackle effective in the quickest possible manner but then attempt to drag an opponent into touch or back towards his own in goal area then the referee should immediately call held.
Application: This does not prevent players driving an opponent into touch or back into his own in goal area providing that a team mate of the ball carrier has not added their weight to the tackle. As soon as the referee sees a tackling player dragging the ball carrier in a tackle that involves more than one tackler he will call "held". If the tackling players continue to move the ball carrier after the "held" call they should be penalised.
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tell me about it!! people near me was shouting for langley to be offside when he basically got handed the ball from tansey!! socking!!!
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Quote ="MGFC10"Dragging tackled players as opposed to pushing them
Interpretation:Where opponents do not make a tackle effective in the quickest possible manner but then attempt to drag an opponent into touch or back towards his own in goal area then the referee should immediately call held.
Application: This does not prevent players driving an opponent into touch or back into his own in goal area providing that a team mate of the ball carrier has not added their weight to the tackle. As soon as the referee sees a tackling player dragging the ball carrier in a tackle that involves more than one tackler he will call "held". If the tackling players continue to move the ball carrier after the "held" call they should be penalised.
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So we are basically saying that - as there were 3 Bradford players forcing Tansey into touch that this was a penalty in our favour and the referee was incorrect therefor, justified booing!! |
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Interpretation:Where opponents do not make a tackle effective in the quickest possible manner but then attempt to drag an opponent into touch or back towards his own in goal area then the referee should immediately call held.
Application: This does not prevent players driving an opponent into touch or back into his own in goal area providing that a team mate of the ball carrier has not added their weight to the tackle. As soon as the referee sees a tackling player dragging the ball carrier in a tackle that involves more than one tackler he will call "held". If the tackling players continue to move the ball carrier after the "held" call they should be penalised.
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So we are basically saying that - as there were 3 Bradford players forcing Tansey into touch that this was a penalty in our favour and the referee was incorrect therefor, justified booing!! | |
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you cannot drag anymore you have to drive them only
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The shouts of offside do my head in, esp when the ref is 14 meters away
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|  people make me laugh who clearly are unsure about the rules and how to interpret them. Which is 99% of the fans, officials and players. Me included.  |
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"I'm not sure if your ageeing with me or not?........I'm saying that there was nothing wrong with it, those around me thought differently'"
Sorry, I was agreeing. There was nothing wrong with Tansey being taken into touch. The second part of my reply was meant in jest. |
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| Quote ="major black"icon_lol.gif people make me laugh who clearly are unsure about the rules and how to interpret them. Which is 99% of the fans, officials and players.
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You must feel smug being that 1% minority. |
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Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"The shouts of offside do my head in, esp when the ref is 14 meters away'"
Agreed.
Unfortunately at the next ptb he is 11m away, followed by 15m, 12m, 9m, 11m, 8m etc. Oh and the players advancing before the ball player has played the ball. Now if he was consistently 10m away that would make things nice and straightforward.
"Play-the-Ball
Every time a player is tackled, all defenders, apart from a maximum of two markers, have to retreat 10 metres from the play-the-ball area. This will be marked by the referee (in other words the defending side retire back to the referee). The defending side may advance when the ball is rolled back by the foot. If they move forward early, or don't retire far enough back, it's a penalty."
www.rlef.eu.com/laws.php
As I have said elsewhere it would be much easier, especially for referees, if they simply applied the laws as they are written. That would remove lots of doubt. Hell - we even mark the pitch in 10m bits to help out with it. Unfortunately the refs have started disappearing up their own arris when it comes to "interpretation". The laws are simple and straightforward. Apply them would be my simple and straightforward advice. |
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Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"The shouts of offside do my head in, esp when the ref is 14 meters away'"
Agreed.
Unfortunately at the next ptb he is 11m away, followed by 15m, 12m, 9m, 11m, 8m etc. Oh and the players advancing before the ball player has played the ball. Now if he was consistently 10m away that would make things nice and straightforward.
"Play-the-Ball
Every time a player is tackled, all defenders, apart from a maximum of two markers, have to retreat 10 metres from the play-the-ball area. This will be marked by the referee (in other words the defending side retire back to the referee). The defending side may advance when the ball is rolled back by the foot. If they move forward early, or don't retire far enough back, it's a penalty."
www.rlef.eu.com/laws.php
As I have said elsewhere it would be much easier, especially for referees, if they simply applied the laws as they are written. That would remove lots of doubt. Hell - we even mark the pitch in 10m bits to help out with it. Unfortunately the refs have started disappearing up their own arris when it comes to "interpretation". The laws are simple and straightforward. Apply them would be my simple and straightforward advice. | |
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| Quote ="barton baird"You must feel smug being that 1% minority.'"
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I guess I'm one of these 'thick' fans as I was under the impression you can no longer "drag" a player into touch therefore it should have been a penalty.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"I guess I'm one of these 'thick' fans as I was under the impression you can no longer "drag" a player into touch therefore it should have been a penalty.'"
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people make me laugh who clearly are unsure about the rules and how to interpret them. Which is 99% of the fans, officials and players. 
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