It appears that a number of Hull players recieve a FLAT wage win or lose, no win bonus, no incentive.

Maybe it's me, but surely that can't be doing us any good??

Thoughts?

Surely they should be playing for an extension on there contract and to stay with the club though? I dont think an incentive is always necessary!

Fine young man....I'll stop your commission









Point being we all need that extra drive and financial gain always seems to work.

I don't like incentives for RL players, maybe for finals but if they are under contract then they are being paid to play.

the main problem is if you give players win pay then you have to calculate that into the cap. so if each player had a £100 win bonus(just used as an example) etc then the club would have to deduct that amount off the cap by the amount of games etc. so 17 man squad x £100 = £1,700 per game x this by the extreme possibility that they win all the games (30)ish your looking at deducting about £50k off what you can spend on players.

What would the difference be from financially incentivising you to up the ante, and a RL player?

I am paid to do a job, the financial rewards of doing a superb job drive me further, can't see how that would differ to a RL player?

Not when the basic is dropped to incorporate this, doesn't have to be a massive drop and we may spend a little more....but this would be for WINNING, rather then just collecting your money win lose or draw.

I just don't like it personally, I don't have incentives in my job but it does not affect my performance. Players receive good contract offers which they accept so they should then play as well as they can.

So if somebody came up to you and offered say a grand for 'turning it up' for a week you couldn't??

Too many players for me collecting over inflated basics for losing.

I see where you are coming from for future players. but no current player would drop their current salary level to incorporate this.And also when signing future players if a player is offered this extra money fixed in their contract by another club then they would probably go for that deal rather then signing with us. Just my opinion though.

Creep

EXACTLY.

Why?

Simple, kepp it as it is and fine them for losing



Incentives work for me, if i was on them at work id turn up on time, do my full 7 hours work without tossing it off on the net and leave on time

Why wouldn't someone take a pay cut?



Really?



You can't directly compare sportsmen to employees in other walks of life. There are different incentives and job conditions. And winning bonuses are hardly going to be a popular option when winning doesn't just depend on your own performance - there are a whole host of variables beyond your control, starting with the rest of the squad up through the weather, injuries, and dodgy refereeing decisions.

I prefer the idea of a bonus paid for final table position and/or finals myself.

The players in question recieve the same regardless of league postion etc, one wage regardless.

We used to have a bonus for finals and playoffs IIRC. Caused us a cap problem one year.

Exactly. They are being paid to play Rugby.

More down to Plummers maths and interpretation of the rules that one though.
I understand SOME players do still have the mentioned incentives, however some certainly don't.

Yup, too much for a poor standard.

Not that it matters to the players

Isnt getting paid to play for FC incentive enough? You earn your wage for doing your job to the best of your ability. There's a stream of research around motivation that talks about people not being motivated by finances too etc

Personally in sport win bonuses should be there for me but in general i think people get overly bothered with needed incentives when actually their wage should be incentive enough to do a good job.

In that case the incentive should be not getting sacked.

Spot on!!

That would do me to be honest.