Have to say that if things don't improve I doubt I will renew my pass next year. I've had a pass each year for the last 25/26 and seen some rubbish in that time, but I've never seen a squad which earns around £75k each on average play with so little enthusiasm, exhibiting so few of the basic skills of the game, with so few ideas on how to play attacking rugby. We have a squad full of plodders, put together by 3 successively mediocre coaches and I've had enough of watching one dimensional rugby.

It's not even about winning, it's about coming away from a game having been entertained and feeling like I've had my money's worth.

My big concern now is that they'll sack agar, appoint sharp as an interim, we'll win a couple of games and he'll get a long contract. You just know it will happen.

Big changes needed at the club or fans will be walking away in droves

I hear that mate!

Wasn't this said last year too?

I'll be getting one. Still good value IMO. However, I suspect there will be a lot like you who are wavering. Massive off-season for recruitment and retention decisions as I think this will influence pass take-up as much as performances for the rest of the season. Some tough decisions required I think.

Yeah but we sacked sharp and got to wembley last year

If we carry on for the rest of the season as we are then season pass sales will definitely be well down next year. The thing is unless you have a reserved seat pass in the middle 2 or 3 blocks of east stand then for viewing purposes its hardly worth investing in any other than one as these blocks as they are the best if you want a view from around the half way line. If i wasnt bothered about where my seat was (at present, middle of east stand) then i very much doubt i would get a pass any year. The west stand doesnt sell out so there will be plenty on that side too even more so next year with the non probable take up of corporate seating.

As I dont tend to buy mine until after the season I will as normal decide at the end of season if I am buying one or not. To make a decision now is a bit hasty.

So you're actually a glory supporter?

Yeah, loads of glorious times in the 90's

Are you really saying this is worse than the Sharks era where we came away from the Boulevard happy if we'd only lost by less than 10???

There was at least we won something.

They don't go on sale until September or October so plenty of time for the waiverers to decide.

I'll be getting one and I guess I would if we were bottom of the NL. Whatever happens, Hull are my club.

Grim times indeed if people think we're putting in less effort and have less skilled players than those days. Lunacy also, IMO

here comes the avalanche of "3 here and 2 here, count me in."



Right now I'd rather watch a good game of amatuer rugby.

Indeed, some really short memories floating around here. I know which time I'd rather be living in, yes there are things that need improving but to say that this is the worst time in the past 26 years is ludicrous!!

Id rather start from there and work our way back up than see these clowns carry on ruining our club

Yup me too,
after each of the recent games I've come away fed up but once the weekend is over I look forward to the next game.

I'll be there on saturday and every other game I can get to this season and every other season.

if thorman is hulls 7 next season, il seriously consider not getting a pass.

I said that if they did that, it was it for me. However, I will carry on I imagine. But I must admit, things have to change now. I said the same thing about being entertained. I don't mind losing, its the manner of it and the bile that spews forth from the people "in charge"

Should come down here mate, St.Albans Cents had their first run out Saturday winning 40-4 without even having a warm up match. 4 tries from the wing & a lot better passing than Hull at the moment, reckon we would have given Bradford a game...lol

the big difference between then and now was we'd just been promoted, had no money and were playing in a crumbling relic to poor crowds. It wasn't fun to watch but we could understand why.

if we don't get a top class coach and scrum half I'm not getting a 2010 pass, it simply isn't worth £200+ a season to watch this 1 man rugby, and to sit and have the board just take the money off us and not correct the obvious problems year after year.

This week I've felt lower about the club than ever to be honest, crap on the pitch, embarrassing off it.

Absolutely , it's the fact that everything was well set for some sustained success but we've just mismanaged it all away. In the sharks era the foundations hadn't been laid. It's the fall away from the expectations we all had that really hurts.

Well said,its easy following good times. Its when the going is tough we have to stand up and be counted.

What does that mean???

You're right Karen, we've been through a hell of a lot worse times then these.