I've heard a rumour that the players had an argument(started by Tickle) with Agar and Sharp about Thacks been dropped and Moa still been in the team, this was suppose to happen on the coach on the way to the Quins match.

If true, this may be the reason there has been no passion or effort from the players in the past 2 game.

Im not saying that is acceptable, they are professinal players and should get on with their jobs regardless on what else is happening.

If this is untrue, something else has to be going wrong, that we aren't aware of, because at the moment the players don't want to know, and you dont get that sort of attitude overnight with 2/3rd's of your players.

rumours thats all they are

Wouldn't surprise me to be honest, Thackray and Tickle are never apart.

If true they should grow up and get on with their jobs!!

Well that's 3 different people i've heard it from, so maybe it's true.

Problems abound for FC. What now?

How do you explain Cas game then

If true, how long before player power forces Agar out? It did for John Kear by all accounts and I still think we haven't recovered from losing him.

Exactly what I thought when I heard it, Thacks has been dropped for no apparent reason and we've been playing with no heart ever since. At first I thought Thacks had done something wrong cos he should have been getting in the team before Moa and Kingy.

Its about time we started to employ professionals instead of make shift amatures.

Ever get the feeling people are just trying to find excuses to patch over a pi$$ poor performance?

Maybe Mr Rule should earn his dough and put his foot down then

we have missed Thackeray, he plays with passion and can do a longer stint than 10 bloody minutes.

The Cas lads wanted it more than us, it wasn't due to lack of effort we lost, maybe due to making wrong choices in the game but not due to lack of effort.

Indeed. As he, or whoever was in charge then, ought to have done instead of sacking Kear.

After what I've just been told about Tickle, he really does need to.

I've just had someone else suggest that today's performance looked like the end of the Kear era.

looked like a team who didnt give a to$$ about their management,

40+ point defeat on Friday coming up then!

apart from his kicking what does he bring to the table anyway? was good in 2007 but average since then

He was dogbile today. Salford ran through him on numerous occasions.

and the rest

no it was marginally better than that display against Saints at least they tried to get back into it with 10mins to go

There's a reason for that.

excuses have all dried up now for everyone, some players need to be made examples of.