As some-one who has been very Hurt and Angry about events this week I would just like to make this observation for you all to ponder on. We as a Club have been put in the spotlight over the Martin Gleeson afair. OK we were as a club very stupid in highnsite taking on Gleeson. (At the time I thought this was a great signing on a 18 month contract) but he ho we were all wrong.
My point is Hull as a Club are now the brunt of all that is wrong in RL but lets look at were all the real problems lie - in what place in this country - what place is the common demenator for all our sports ills as far as illegal Drugs - Dare I suggest Wigan.
Name the names folks !!!!

Been on the sherry again ?

While I have sympathy with the post, please DON'T name names.

Also we have Gleeson Rule and Cooper to blame. No one else.

No actually I dont need Sherry or any other Old fashioned drink to have a think about things - can you give us an opinion about what I have just said - perhaps not its not your style is it. Mr one Liner

I did not name names I just asked people to think about this and that includes all out there in the RL world - they kow the names they are in the public domain. I dont like my City (and by that included Hull KR) supporters being maligned by others .

I know you didn't but the above is asking others to.

I hate that my non RL supporting friends are thinking "drugs" when I talk to them about RL because of Gleeson, Rule and Cooper, not Hull FC. It may be that we have to take some grief for a while, but knowing that a) they're gone and b) we're now clean, is a good, if not great, start

Ok = I take your point and I think you take mine - and I hope you are right that we are now clean . Roll on the season with proper young and healthy players eh. LOL

Come on people it was slimming pills for gods sake i know its a banned substance but its not exactly performance enhancing or class a drugs, i for one couldnt give a monkeys what people think of hull fc because the fact is this sort of stuff probably goes on at alot of pro sports clubs and probably alot worse goes on aswell.

All the people involved in this have now left the club so lets not get too hung up in it all.

Adam Pearson has come in and cleaned house from top to bottom, he cannot do anything about what happenned before he took over except take the brunt of all the very bad publicity.

I am appalled like everyone else over this matter and its bringing the name of the club I love into disrepute but i fully support the new Board and really believe they will turn the club around for the better, just wont happen overnight and they could have done without this.

I like everyone else will just have to take the brunt of the dobbins jokes and everyone else but I still love my club and I will be there as passionate as ever at the first match.

I dont see what all the fuss is about? one player who took advice without checking it through or taking a second opinion. & club officials trying to protect the club & said player. OK it turned out to be the wrong descision but no great disaster. No doubt other clubs will have similar episodes in days to come but it should not in anyway reflect on the majority of players supporters & officials. The whole doping & testing agencies are partly to blame as they wont ever except that not every player is a cheat & that the average person can not be expected to understand every detail of the products they take in thier diet. A lot of amature players would fail tests as half the stuff we are prescribed by our doctors or buy over the counter would make us fail.

Somewhat of an overreaction isn't it? The people involved aren't even at the club any more and the fuss will soon die down.

And TBH I think trying to deflect attention onto a whole different club is just a tad pathetic.

There appears to be a very blaise mood on here toward the offending behaviour of Gleeson, Cooper and Rule.

Don't you realise the seriousness of their offences; the issuing of a sum total of 7 years in bans surely makes you sit up?

It is irrelevant whether the potion can be bought over the counter or that the rules over legality of drugs and medicines are confusing and convoluted:

The fact is the potion taken by Gleeson was illegal.
The fact is the RFL circulates each and every player and coaching staff with the guidelines.
The fact is the potion taken by Gleeson was included on the illegal list from 2010.
The fact is drug-abuse risk is an everyday concern of players and coaching staff, even more so when a player falls ill or needs supplements etc.

For me. there can be no excuses. The rules have been clearly abused - be it through ignorance (Cooper) and gullibility (Gleeson accepting Coopers word). However, IMO, the more serious aspect of this affair is why did Rule feel it necessary to act in the way he did; why did he feel he could cover up Cooper's ignorance which led to the sequence of events resulting in bans (and ruin)?

I suggest this latter point is of more concern to our ruling bodies than the transgressions of Gleeson and Cooper.

Well for a start , they are not illegal drugs. They are banned substances in sporting competitions(alcohol is even on certain lists)

The banned list includes pseudoephedrine, glycerol and salbutomol, which are all regualry found in day to day medicines.

Even caffeine is part of the monitoring program.

In fact id like to refer you to an article i read on the matter this week, esp these paragraphs

He took slimming pills . They are hardly performance enhancing! As has been stated , they were not illegal.
The major thing here is the cover up by Rule . That was the stupid thing .
As for people hating Hull FC , who cares ! Bring on 2012 and lets do our talking on the pitch ! The potential is now in place for Hull FC to become one of , if not the biggest Club in SL.
Lets all get behind Adam, Shaun, Peter and all the players and show that the Black and White Nation is about to wake up!
OLD FAITHFUL......

As a Warrington and RL supporter, I'm not overly fussed about the Gleeson thing. I knew Hull were setting themselves up to come a cropper when they signed him, especially with Long already in situ. Still, as has been said, while the situation was handled spectacularly badly the original offence is not something to go mad over.

Having said that, I've been a regular reader of the Hull FC forum as a casual probably since the end of 2006 when Rovers got promoted. I can say, hand on heart, that I've been repeatedly drawn back because from that point on, your club has been a stream of ceaseless hilarity. At the beginning of that period, you were one of the most exciting lights in the game - top facilities, loads of money, big passionate crowds, a trophy the year before and every chance of challenging for honours for the foreseeable.

Then came Rovers, the Cooke Affair and a bottomless pit of embarrassment. I don't know whether Rovers themselves were the catalyst, but bad decision followed bad decision, clapped-out Aussie stars joined clapped-out English never-has-beens - and that was just the on-field disasters. The appointment and subsequent support of Agar by the board, Thackray, Reardon, Crocker, the ever self-promoting Rule.. that's just off the top of my head.

As entertaining as it's been, it's about time Hull FC started a new era of realising their potential with Mr Pearson at the helm. The signings for this coming season aren't a promising start, but hopefully I'll be wrong. I do wish the club all the best, as you are one of our biggest and most historic, but not in the first game



JB

Good post .
The age of Hull FC averageness must now end.

I really don't think your lot are in a position to judge. If and when Gleeson plays another rugby league game again you can rest assure that there won't be any Hull FC fans there to cheer him on and wish him well because he left without "saying goodbye" to the fans.

Good post.

I agree that from 2007 onwards the club went from being a SL side with the potentially to permanenently break in to the top4, to an off-field soap opera.

Our signings for next season were affected by most of the signings being made by Agar/The old board before they left, and also the exchange rate/tax rules meaning big name stars aren't eager to come over.

cruicially however, some of our gamble/average signings for next season like Aspinwall and Martin are on 1 year deals.

I would expect Gentle to give the squad a major overhaul in 2013.

Next year I would be happy to see progress on the field, with more attractive rugby being played and the beleif back that 'on our day' we can beat a top side.

It's easy to say slimming pills aren't performance enhancing, but if there taken to lose weight to enhance your performance I'm guessing they can be afterall.

I can't wait for the season to start. 2012 is about re-establishing some pride back in the club and having a competitive year. We won't win anything but hopefully we will take our first steps towards success.

Here here.

Following F.C. and Grimsby Town,I obviously don`t go for the easy option.

Yes I appreciate that they were Slimming Pills and I have just been told that they are next to the till at Boots - I'm on my way there now

Bring some to Emma's tonight!

Thank God I am not a Sportsman I take Beta-blocker called Carvdilol If I didn't take it I could die ..I know a Snooker player took it and had to defend himself for taking it ..The drug slow the heart rate thus causing the heart to beat more calmly and lower blood pressure.. But not being a sportsman, I went to doctors a few years ago and he put me on Slimming Pills I was having trouble with my weight So it is easy to say it's only slimming pills..There help to control your weight ps for Karl yes I am still a fat