The team look passionless, out of ideas and out of confidence.

Tonights team selection is all over the place, with Crooks and Green dropped for bigger names (something Gentle promised he woulden't do) players who have previously been consistent high performers such as Houghton, Lynch, Yeaman & Briscoe look out of sorts and have been every game this season.

the squad Gentle has assembled seems light and lacks impact, and the creativity issues remain.

We have badly missed Moa & Manu's impact, and our error rate is appaling, we give away cheap penalty after cheap penalty.

I was impressed with Gentle last season, and he talks a good game, but it really is time for the talking to stop and for the team to deliver.

Pearson has proven trigger happy with managers in Football, and I don't think he'll put up with many more displays like tonight.

Have said all along we are no better than 5th, probably lower. Conceding 7 tries against widnes is an utter disgrace

Agreed, this performance simply isn't acceptable. Some serious questions have to be asked as to whether he is actually up to the job.

You have taken the words straight out of my mouth.

He really needs to deliver or the exit door should beckon.

His recruitment has been poor and tonight has highlighted that. Mao, Manu and Turner replaced by Arundel, Galea and Johnson.

I seriously do not believe the likes of leeds, wire or saints would select any of our players to be in their starting 13. We are a very average team and I'm sick of hearing "o wait for next week" or just you wait till Ellis is back" it's bull!!!

I agree, I also don't think Ellis is being that badly missed, our 2nd row is relatively the position that is playing the best. I felt Westerman was the best of a bad bunch tonight, and i'm not usually a fan.

He's under massive pressure for me. I don't want to hear his same excuse "we don't do what we do in training". Guess what Peter it's your job to fix it. That performance was as bad as anything Agar served up and lets not forget Agar is currently doing a top job at Wakey.

Everything to prove now, yes players take blame too but he has had no criticism so far, deserves it now.

Complete shambles tonight. I can be forgiving against Leeds and Wire, but we won't make the play-offs on that showing, could get the wooden spoon. Embarrassing.

He's never been a head coach, it's starting to show.

This team depends on Holdsworth and it becomes clearer every game he doesn't play.

Lose the next two and I can see the London game being make or break for Gentle, go into the Easter period with one win and I think he would be on he way.

We have a winner

Two to go after the derby then

A team in relying on it's organiser to lead them around the park and call attacking play shocker.

Indeed the Derby could be a shoot out to see which coach goes first!

No other team relys on one man like us though, Wire were missing Briers last week but you woulden't have noticed as Myler and Ratchford stepped up and filled his place.

Even sandercock managed to mastermind a win over widnes!!

Indeed. But there really is no other player with intelligence in the team. Dobson would transform this team or someone of his ilk. We tried to get some like this and failed - nights like tonight is where you pay the price.

It's up to the coach to improve the players and to address the weaknesses and I see no evidence of either

The only difference is we manged some wins between July as well...unlike sandinmy crack.

Wire has a team built up over years. Pearson and Gentle publically tried ridiculous amounts to sign a new half back. It's not as if this was unforseen, just couldn't get it done.

Gentle has my support for the time being but the pressure is really on.

The signings of Arundel and Galea are becoming increasingly questionable.

Agree re Gentle. Thought Galea did OK. It's our backs that except for Lineham that looked like a pub outfit. I'd play Jason Crookes in the centre with Lineham on that wing and fine Crooks heavily for his twitter trash and play him in the other centre. Time for Yeaman to step down he's done nothing and Arundel should stay at York.

Agree completely. But Yeaman won't get dropped in his Testimonial year.

And if we haven't already sorted a new half for next season we need to do it [iright now[/i.

The question is if he were to go who would replace him, if I was Adam Pearson I'd offer top dollar for dobson at least we'd have 2 top class halves then

Agree 100%.....thought Galea went okish tonight tbh but Arundle is another Turner......totally pi$$ poor attempt on Hock.