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| in my opinion that it is the players (well certain ones) that are to blame for our poor performances . Last week we showed comitment , and the ability to throw the ball about and showed interest .
tonight we looked awful and any desire to win the game seemed to , at least in the second half to be non existent .
we have shown we can do it , but only in games the playes can lift themselves for , derbys are easy to lift for , but i always said it would be this week that showed if we have turned a corner . we havent cause the same lack of passion showed through tonight .
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff
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| Quote ="fat ash"in my opinion that it is the players (well certain ones) that are to blame for our poor performances . Last week we showed comitment , and the ability to throw the ball about and showed interest .
tonight we looked awful and any desire to win the game seemed to , at least in the second half to be non existent .
we have shown we can do it , but only in games the playes can lift themselves for , derbys are easy to lift for , but i always said it would be this week that showed if we have turned a corner . we havent cause the same lack of passion showed through tonight .
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'"
Bingo
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| Bingo, we have a winner.
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| Quote ="wolfie"Bingo'"
Share the winnings.
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| tonight also proves me need a whole change around in our club.
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| I thought the players showed passion and enthusiasm in the first 30 mins. But at the end of the day, they were clueless in attack as usual. Who sorts out the attack? The coach.
It's the coaches job to get the players to play to the game plan. To get them motivated for all games. To select the team and drop the players that aren't good enough.
He doesn't have control of the squad or the respect to make a difference it seems. He's had enough time to show things. At the end of the day, the players we have may not be the best, but they are WAY better than 11th in the table and 4 wins in 18.
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| Warrington had similar issues and got though 2 coaches too. Then Smith came along who could man-manage...
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| Quote ="fat ash"in my opinion that it is the players (well certain ones) that are to blame for our poor performances . Last week we showed comitment , and the ability to throw the ball about and showed interest .
tonight we looked awful and any desire to win the game seemed to , at least in the second half to be non existent .
we have shown we can do it , but only in games the playes can lift themselves for , derbys are easy to lift for , but i always said it would be this week that showed if we have turned a corner . we havent cause the same lack of passion showed through tonight .
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'"
By Anti Agar crew you must now admit you are referring to the majority of fans.
It's an interesting view though, if it's the case then pray tell why Hudds have made such great strides under Brown with only 2 or 3 notable additions to the squad that Jon Sharp had?
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| It's noticeable that certain people on this board haven't commented on this thread, this is down to narrow mindedness on there part.
It's all too easy for some to blame the coach when deep down we know that the players should be taking the blame. You can see that the best performing players this season are the new members of the team ie. Calderwood, Moa and the younger kids ie. Hall, briscoe.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It's noticeable that certain people on this board haven't commented on this thread, this is down to narrow mindedness on there part.
It's all too easy for some to blame the coach when deep down we know that the players should be taking the blame. You can see that the best performing players this season are the new members of the team ie. Calderwood, Moa and the younger kids ie. Hall, briscoe.'"
Nonsense.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Warrington had similar issues and got though 2 coaches too. Then Smith came along who could man-manage...'"
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It's noticeable that certain people on this board haven't commented on this thread, this is down to narrow mindedness on there part.
It's all too easy for some to blame the coach when deep down we know that the players should be taking the blame. You can see that the best performing players this season are the new members of the team ie. Calderwood, Moa and the younger kids ie. Hall, briscoe.'"
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"
By Anti Agar crew you must now admit you are referring to the majority of fans.
It's an interesting view though, if it's the case then pray tell why Hudds have made such great strides under Brown with only 2 or 3 notable additions to the squad that Jon Sharp had?'"
I do agree im fighting a losing battle here
the reason huddersfield are doing so well and i said it at tonights game is they have togetherness and team spirit which makes up for any lack of abitlity they may have
as for the coach lifting a team argument , why did we lift for the derby if agar can't lift a team? its off the players backs and they can't do it for "irrelavent" games , leeds at home we lifted but celtic we looked dead
i hate to say it but there seems to be a degree of egotism in the club with players feeling they have a god given right right to beat certain teams
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I thought the players showed passion and enthusiasm in the first 30 mins. But at the end of the day, they were clueless in attack as usual. Who sorts out the attack? The coach.
It's the coaches job to get the players to play to the game plan. To get them motivated for all games. To select the team and drop the players that aren't good enough.
He doesn't have control of the squad or the respect to make a difference it seems. He's had enough time to show things. At the end of the day, the players we have may not be the best, but they are WAY better than 11th in the table and 4 wins in 18.'" so you're admitting that when they were sent out they were properly motivated and given we had 2 tries disallowed one which was very border line and had some good plays, when they scored the players heads went down and they started to feel sorry for themselves, that is solely down to player attitude.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"It's noticeable that certain people on this board haven't commented on this thread, this is down to narrow mindedness on there part.
It's all too easy for some to blame the coach when deep down we know that the players should be taking the blame. You can see that the best performing players this season are the new members of the team ie. Calderwood, Moa and the younger kids ie. Hall, briscoe.'"
thought i'd be on my own on this one
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| Quote ="fat ash"I do agree im fighting a losing battle here
the reason huddersfield are doing so well and i said it at tonights game is they have togetherness and team spirit which makes up for any lack of abitlity they may have
as for the coach lifting a team argument , why did we lift for the derby if agar can't lift a team? its off the players backs and they can't do it for "irrelavent" games , leeds at home we lifted but celtic we looked dead
i hate to say it but there seems to be a degree of egotism in the club with players feeling they have a god given right right to beat certain teams'"
But why was that not there under Sharp and is now there under Brown???
Answer: Man management, motivational skills and tactics the players believe in
As for the Rovers game, we were looking like we were going to get ripped apart until a fight broke out, it was only after that that the lads looked motivated.
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| Get Huddersfield`s sacked Coach and Conditioner,what do you get?
Beaten 24 NIL at home !
This Club are a joke.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"
By Anti Agar crew you must now admit you are referring to the majority of fans.
It's an interesting view though, if it's the case then pray tell why Hudds have made such great strides under Brown with only 2 or 3 notable additions to the squad that Jon Sharp had?'"
How many international,rep players,and Grand Final players
have Huddersfield got,compared to our squad??
But huddersfield have a coach who is proven in the NRL,
We have a coach, who has experience of Division 2 of the English league.
There lies the difference.
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| When does a coach have a team that is entirely of his own choosing though?. It just doesn't happen. Tony Smith & Nathan Brown are doing well with players they haven't signed.
We'll probably have to put up with all this "not Agar's team" BS until next year & then they'll probably sack him 4 games in!.
Agar seems a good guy & I'd like to see him succeed, but all the evidence suggests it's not gonna work out.
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| Quote ="fat ash"thought i'd be on my own on this one
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It's fair enough if you personally hold that view, but to suggest that 'deep down' it's something we all know is bull$hit.
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| huddersfield have still looked good in recent years it takes time for players to gel into a squad .
we have looked bad before sharpe came in and this has been going on for years . my argument is that it is far to easy to blame a coach , regardless of how proven agar is we have had the same underlying problems for 3 seasons and by sheer logic these cannot be agar and john sharps fault
we look devoid of interest and will to win and have done for a while under 3 coaches and as i say its the players (and the board) who have remained the same
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| I give up!
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| Quote ="fat ash"in my opinion that it is the players (well certain ones) that are to blame for our poor performances . Last week we showed comitment , and the ability to throw the ball about and showed interest .
tonight we looked awful and any desire to win the game seemed to , at least in the second half to be non existent .
we have shown we can do it , but only in games the playes can lift themselves for , derbys are easy to lift for , but i always said it would be this week that showed if we have turned a corner . we havent cause the same lack of passion showed through tonight .
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'"
There's no wonder the fans blame the coach when he states he played a player against his old club cos he thought it would "Spark him up"
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| Quote ="Darrell"There's no wonder the fans blame the coach when he states he played a player against his old club cos he thought it would "Spark him up"'"
and why wouldn't it ?
lets not make scapegoats again thorman was no worse than anyone else on the field , apart from calderwood
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