Now most signings have been made for 2024, anyone feel brave enough to do a pre season prediction table

Early days of course but I would go with:

1st - Wigan
2nd - Saints
3rd - Catalans
4th - Leigh
5th - Leeds
6th - Warrington
7th - Hull KR
8th - Hull FC
9th - Huddersfield
10th - Salford
11th - Castleford
12th - London

Wigan on paper look immense, they are going to be really difficult to stop this season. I think Saints and Catalans are the only two who could get close, however are both having their first seasons without key players such as Roby and Tompkins.

The one I feel I could be completely wrong with is Leigh, second season syndrome could strike them but I feel they have more depth this time round and the signing of Moylan is a significant upgrade on Reynolds.

Cant say I am overly confident on where Leeds Wire and Rovers sit on my prediction, but I do think they will be the three sides battling for the last two spots.

Im being conservative with us in 8th, we are probably the biggest unknown going into the new season, if things click we could be up there for the Play offs, the same could be said for Huddersfield.

Salford Cas and London will be the stragglers, Cas will count themselves lucky that London are in the league.

I'll go for:

1. Wigan
2. Catalans
3. Saints
4. Leeds
5. Rovers
6. Wire
7. Leigh
8. Hull
9. Hudds
10. Salford
11. Cas
12. London

Pretty confident of the top 3 and bottom 3. Everything else is a hit and hope



If things click for us, I could see us nicking 6th or even 5th, but you could say that about half the league.

Salford have still got a very good team not sure why people are tipping them to struggle

1. Wigan
2. Saints
3. Catalan
4. Leigh
5. Leeds
6. Salford

10. Huddersfield
11. Cas
12. London

Salford have got a small squad, they haven't replaced Ackers yet and have replaced Croft and Dupree with Cust and Singleton.

As much as I like Rowley, I think he'll struggle to get them near the play offs

Wigan
Saints
Cats
Warrington
leeds
Rovers
Leigh
Hudds
Hull
Salford
Cas
London

Hope I'm wrong, think we will improve, but think those above us have better squads.

Still concerns over Wing, 7, backrow (including LF)

Leigh didn't have a big squad yet had quality in their starting 17

Salfords 13 is still pretty good even now
1 breirley
2 sio
3 Mcdonald
4 lafai
5 burgess
6 cust
7 sneyd
8 Singleton
9 atkin
10 King yun
11 Watkins
12 stone
13 Partington

Worryingly theirs a fair few of them I would snap in no time what does that say about our chances ....if Salford are gunna "struggle"

I'd go with that. I don't think we got much chance of finishing in the top 6 but I hope we are there or there abouts near the end of the season and avoid the traditional capitulation.

That's a decent looking 13 but the big worry for Salford is how many will be there come the end of the season.

If Salford are in special measures, I'm not sure they can just go out and sign someone either.

Interested to see how Burgess goes at Wire. I'm not convinced it'll end well

Wigan all the way for me but the rest is interesting, Saints will be strong and Catalans maybe less so this year, while the Burgess effect could go either way at Wire, I'd say, with no great conviction:

1st - Wigan
2nd - Saints
3rd - Catalans
4th - Hull KR
5th - Leeds
6th - Leigh
7th -Warrington
8th - Hull FC
9th - Huddersfield
10th - Salford
11th - Castleford
12th - London

The middle teams will be close I think, so 6-10 th place hard to call.

Wigan
Saints
Cats
Wire
Leeds
FC
Leigh
Dobbins
Huddersfield
Salford
Cas
London

Sorted

Admire the optimism

This is a forum for all Realists, Optimists and miseries.

I was gonna put us 4 th but a few would have me put in a straight jacket for that .

Not if it's 4th from bottom.

You just couldn’t resist could you, you silly happy clapper you











(there you go, a few emojis slung in as well)

We do love our emojis

Wigan
Saints
Catalan
Hull KR
Wire
Huddersfield
Leeds
Leigh
Hull FC
Salford
Cas
London

Wigan
Saints
Catalan
Leeds
Warrington
Rovers
Hull
Huddersfield
Leigh
Salford
Cas
London

Wigan
Catalans
Saints
Leeds
Leigh
Hull
Rovers
Warrington
Huddersfield
Salford
Castleford
London

Find it quite hard to predict to be honest. Think Wigan/Saints/Catalans are set for top 3. Leeds I fancy to have a much improved year and push on for top 4. Leigh pretty similar to last year. And then after that I can see any of the next 5 been in any order. Castleford and London to be a few wins adrift at the bottom.

Wigan
Saints
Cats
Warrington
Rovers
Leeds
Leigh
Hudds
Hull
Salford
Cas
London

I've tried to be optimistic but I can't see us improving much on last year (hope I'm very wrong) most predictions have us from 6th-9th which shows how badly wrong we've got Recruitment and retention over the last few years. One more season of clearing players out and adding some real quality combined with great youth prospects should hopefully see us kick on back into the top 6.

If we were to finish 8th or worse, would people see this year as another transition year and accept it or would fans begin to become a bit restless at the lack of success? Particularly if rovers were to have a good season

I think barring some miracle I think we have to accept it until we can get some real quality in the squad, whether that be from the youth systems or from outside the club.

Problem is we keep giving the past it/average players new contracts

Likes of carlos, houghton, fash, cator, Lane, brown aren't better than many players in their positions in the league

Carlos is past it

If we could have team in 2025 something like this looks a world of difference genuine quality and players we could realistically sign imo

Hoy
Mitch
Lafai
Sutcliffe
J Burgess
Trueman
Fages
Ese ese
Brown
Sao
Okunbor
Currie
Ben garcia ( out of contract )

Pele
Philbin
Balmforth
Ashworth