Ok so where the ell do we go from here, if anybody is brave enough to name a team to take the pitch please do.
litten
mac
wynne
vuni
macnamara
gale
satae
balmforth.
sae
griffin
lane
lovodu

subs
fash
brown
evans
taylor

the only reason i put some of those in is that there hull lads,plucking at straws but hey ho.

Imagine if we didn’t have each other’s misery to revel in! I wonder if I can get odds on us both losing! I reckon we could find a way.

Litten
Barron
Wynne
Griffin
Mcintosh
McNamara
Gale
Sao
Houghton
Evans
Lovodua
Lane
Brown

Taylor
Satae
Denive
Fash

Something like that? I'd like to drop a few but we've not got the squad

Blimey this is difficult not what I want but reckon something like this
Shaul
Macintosh
Wynne
Griffin
Barron
Benny mc
Gale
Fash
Houghton
Evans
Lane
Sao
Johnstone

Lover
Taylor
Brown
Sevens.

Personally would like to see litten given a game at 1 would have joey starting at 9 sevens starting so ligi can go back to prop . Wouldn't have Houghton or Taylor in the 17 but we know that's not going happen Johnstone in because I can't think of anybody else to put in

We go on about "injuries" but 14 of that 17 are near enough first 17 players

People talking like we had 10 academy players playing we didn't

We just have no hornes yeamans cookes coming through

Lane is average really but he's our best youngster we've brought through for 5-8 years

And that's the difference we've no quality coming through

Hookem championship player at best another jack logan .... what's Jack logan doing ?

Nothing

said he was average in 2016

No chance that Shaul or Houghton will lose their place. BH will play it conservatively in such a pressure game in a big stadium.

Assuming Ben McNamara is OK to play and that there's no discilipnary issues from the RFL, I expect the team to be

Shaul, McIntosh, Griffin, Lovodua, Wynne, McNamara, Gale, Evans, Houghton, Taylor, Lane, Sao, Johnstone.

Interchanges: Balmforth, Brown, Fash, Satae.

So only three of the following are first seventeen players?

Connor
Swift
Tuimavave
Savelio
Ma'u
Cator

Shauls a game changer

Houghton a tackler at best

Taylor a shadow of 5 years ago yet you don't mention him?

Mcintosh is worse than what we had

Johnstone terrible like Houghton no attack but he earns no where near the money Houghton does

Houghton takes 100,000+ to defend end of ( Roby, daryl Clark om similar money yet far better players 100% )

Johnstone takes home no more than 40,000 for the same role!

Shaul defo a game breaker lol,with his tackling he cert changed the game,Do you actually go to any of our matches? plus its always great to have someone like yourself who knows what the players earn,

You have no idea what players are paid.

This is going to be one of the worst Derbies ever. Just seen their result tonight. Headless chickens but Dobbins to win a horrible game. Glad I’m off to Cornwall.

"Near enough" ie play plenty of times through out the season

Only really balmforth and hookem who were inexperienced at SL level in the 17

So your saying Houghton doesn't take over 100,000?

I'm 100% certain he will

Of course you're not, unless he's told you.

Really tough to pick a side, lots deserved to be dropped, but few will, alot to do with having no players available.

I'd go with
Shaul
Barron
Griffin
Wynne
Mcintosh
McNamara/Hookem
Gale
Satae (has to start, changed the game for a brief time)
Houghton
Fash
Lane
Sao
Lovodua

Brown
Evans
Balmforth
Severs

Although if he isn't going to bring on Balmforth until the game is over and give Houghton a break, there is no point in having him on the bench.

Laughable to judge Hookem on these two games, he needs time, should have played earlier in the season when confidence was high and we had a better team out.

We’re now bringing young players into a team that is really struggling, rather than one which is doing well.

The interchanges have been baffling all season and we’re also really paying the price for poor retention decisions.

AP has been really quiet recently as well. Maybe need a call to arms. Don’t think signing announcements enthuse the supporters anymore.

Totally agree Dave. Even by Hull fans standards it's quick to try and destroy a half back (and a teenage one at that!) After 2 matches.

Hookem is a better player than McNamara by a distance. He just hasn't had the correct opportunity yet.

Doesn't take a Brian surgeon to work out that he's on over that easy

Simon Cowell has never told me he's a multi millionaire but I know he is !

Do we have anyone back from bans or injury?

Why you available



could even be an upgrade

Litten
Mcintosh
Wynne
Mitch
Barron
Gale
Hookem
Evans
Lovodua
Sao
Lane
Griffin
Stavely

Balmforth
Brown
Satae
Fash

No Shaul, Houghton or Taylor as a nice message that not earning your wage or playing with passion for your hometown club isn't acceptable and won't be tolerated, Griffin can count himself very lucky we've alot of injurys.

Mcintosh is awful defensively and makes a lot of mistakes

One of the worst starting wingers we've had for a few years

Just Gale and potentially McNamara. Vulikijapani back the week after, other all longer term.

Would of liked Mitch back this week for his defence and physicality, I'm not sold on Cam Scott at all even though he's injured, have we no decent academy centres.

I'd of thought we d of used the loan market with the scale of the injurys of possibly signed a good young player from the championship but seems we're adrift with no real plan