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| Where do we go now with the coaching? Stick with Hodgson or get rid before it can get any worse?
I wasnt all that impressed when he was announced as hes basically an untried assistant (yet again) but then I decided to give him a chance.
Hes basically playing with the same staff as Andy Last had at his disposal at the end of last season but the results and performances are appalling. We waited years for Radford to get his team and tasted brief success - do we have to do this again with Hodgson?
Or do we go bring in an old head to steady the ship as i dont think any signings of any calibre will make the fans enthusiastic for next season if we just think its gonna be more dross like this season?
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| I honestly don't know what is best. If we get rid and find someone more experienced, that could take 6 weeks, and then recruitment is harder, so the new coach is doing what BH is doing this year and coaching someone else's squad
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| Who's the old head to bring in? Bennett? Bellamy? Wane? McDermott? Kear? Smith? McGuire?
It's the playing group that stinks not the coach.
It'll take another 2 season to get rid of all the deadwood, unless Pearson pays some people off.
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| Hasn't shown anything to suggest he's up to the task. Looks out of his depth.
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| The problem was he was appointed so late, last week in November.
I've said before, Radford has already been plannining for next year since April, same as Powell at Warrington. They've both been able to shape their squad and backroom staff and of course are based over here.
Hodgson arrived in December, signed one player and we then went into a pre-season lockdown.
He does come across as mild mannered which has echoes of Peter Gentle. I've no idea how he gets on with the players but for anyone to suggest we get rid is absolute nonsense,
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| After the way the same players started the season with passion and pride obviously instilled by a new Coach you have to wonder watching us of late and listening to his pre match hype if the same coach has lost the players!
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| He talks tonight about bringing in new players and mentions "quality players" that's what I want to hear so I'm happy to take his word for it and give him a chance.
I think most agree that it's more a lack of on field leadership rather than off-field leadership where we're lacking right now.
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| Jury very much out for me, clearly an intelligent, well spoken bloke and a top player. But he seems quiet and mild mannered and that maybe isn't what is needed right now.
No coach in the world is going to turn these lazy, past it players into world beaters but in a year of very poor standards in SL we should have still made the 6.
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| It's a case of the coach asking for high standards when faced with adversity, and the playing group wrapping it in, how you blame the coach strewth only knows after the Radford era............
Come on wisen up its not rocket science.........
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"He talks tonight about bringing in new players and mentions "quality players" that's what I want to hear so I'm happy to take his word for it and give him a chance.
I think most agree that it's more a lack of on field leadership rather than off-field leadership where we're lacking right now.'"
He mentions quality players, and then the 2 names mentioned this week are Scurr and Joe Wardle. Hopefully that's the depth, and the rumours of the quality will start this week.
Hopefully Fonua and Reynolds can be moved on and then 400k comes available and 2 quota spots
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"He mentions quality players, and then the 2 names mentioned this week are Scurr and Joe Wardle. Hopefully that's the depth, and the rumours of the quality will start this week.
Hopefully Fonua and Reynolds can be moved on and then 400k comes available and 2 quota spots'"
But as has been much discussed, which clubs are going to go 'oh yeh Fonua and Reynolds, they'll really improve our Centre/Wing and Halves' and take them off us? I don't even think Toulouse need em the way they have smashed it in the championship.
Pearson is going to have to pay one or two off, or at the very least fund a good chunk of their wages for their new club.
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| Quote ="UllFC"But as has been much discussed, which clubs are going to go 'oh yeh Fonua and Reynolds, they'll really improve our Centre/Wing and Halves' and take them off us? I don't even think Toulouse need em the way they have smashed it in the championship.
Pearson is going to have to pay one or two off, or at the very least fund a good chunk of their wages for their new club.'"
I still think Reynolds might retire. Maybe the club can use the video they have of him to force that through
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| The last time I remember really enjoying us play was the Mcrae era (mk1) - we was so well coached, had a great side, played great defensively and in attack. You'd go to watch them games feeling like we was almost invincible. Granted we only won the cc in 2005 but we was closer to being SL champions than the Radford side of a few years ago. Since then its been painful at the most and the play is dire compared to 15 years ago
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Hasn't shown anything to suggest he's up to the task. Looks out of his depth.'"
Excepting the results what do you actually base that on. Genuine question! What do you see?
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| Before Brett Hodgson got the job, who were most Hull fans hoping to be their next coach ??
This is the kind of thing my club Leigh would do (with all due respect as we are usually in the championship) but give the head coach role to someone who has never done it before. Obviously when you put 60 past us at our place, you looked like a rather good side.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Before Brett Hodgson got the job, who were most Hull fans hoping to be their next coach ??
This is the kind of thing my club Leigh would do (with all due respect as we are usually in the championship) but give the head coach role to someone who has never done it before. Obviously when you put 60 past us at our place, you looked like a rather good side.
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I would have liked McNamara, I think he would have come last season, but no chance now.
Alot of the successful coaches have been NRL assistant coaches, Holbrook, McGuire, Woolf.
But it's a gamble, I think he will stay, but I wouldn't be bothered if he went.
I'd really look to change the backroom staff, I'd bring in Lee Briers for one.
Big chances needed on and off the pitch, again.
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| On paper Hull are a top 6 side at the very least. I know it's a lopsided league table due to win percentages, but I'm amazed you won only 8 games out of 21.
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| Quote ="Irregs#16"I still think Reynolds might retire. Maybe the club can use the video they have of him to force that through'"
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| Of their is any evidence of either him or Fonua doing anything wrong that we could cancel their contracts we should be doing it.
Those two off the cap and the extra two quota spots could make a massive difference to the squad.
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"Excepting the results what do you actually base that on. Genuine question! What do you see?'"
I see nothing. The last couple of months have been dire and have steadily gotten worse. I have been really disappointed in his ability to address the current slide which has seen us lose to basically everyone in the last few weeks without any sign of improvement. He hasn't been able to galvanise the side or rally them into a response. I've seen no shoots of progress under him, the style of rugby is one dimensional in both attack and defence. His use of interchanges is appaling. He simply doesn't inspire confidence. Convince me otherwise.
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| Quote ="Plum Bob"Excepting the results what do you actually base that on. Genuine question! What do you see?'"
I think for a lot of fans who have experienced a lot of coaches over the years feel that the fact that his comments on the attitude and feeling and indeed the wanting in the camp leading up to games bears no resemblance to what happens when the team actually takes to the field is a telling indication. Its acceptable occasionally of course it is, attitude is a difficult one to control but of late it has been a regular occurrence. talk like world beaters play like egg beaters.
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| Ian Watsons Huddersfield were meant to be dark horses this season but all we've heard from him is about how it takes time to put systems in place, it looks like FC are in the same boat, Huddersfield made plenty of changes for this season and look what it did for them.
Hodgsons problem is that he's got a very vocal boss that's probably putting more pressure on him with his comments.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"Ian Watsons Huddersfield were meant to be dark horses this season but all we've heard from him is about how it takes time to put systems in place, it looks like FC are in the same boat, Huddersfield made plenty of changes for this season and look what it did for them.
Hodgsons problem is that he's got a very vocal boss that's probably putting more pressure on him with his comments.'"
Yes but there always has been and always will be more pressure on the coach at clubs like Hull FC, Leeds and Warrington compared to, say, Huddersfield, Hull KR and Castleford. Doesn't matter who the owner or coach is at any particular time.
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| There’s been a common theme at the club regarding culture, all the way back to when Bomber first called it out.
The promises of reviews and changes won’t wash anymore, as we’ve heard it countless times over the years.
I’m at the point that I’d rather be part time, in a league below, watching players put a shift in and enjoying watching rugby again.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Yes but there always has been and always will be more pressure on the coach at clubs like Hull FC, Leeds and Warrington compared to, say, Huddersfield, Hull KR and Castleford. Doesn't matter who the owner or coach is at any particular time.'"
I get that but the point I'm making is that it won't be helping Hodgson when his Boss is telling everyone that there's going to be massive changes to the playing squad, that just adds to the pressure, I only used Watson as a comparison as he was new in the job to and had a lot of expectations on him aswell.
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