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| Sorry if already been discussed but who do you guys think should replace Albert Kelly next season?
With Connor’s impressive performances at full back and IMO it is his best position I would like to see us make a move for an out and out 6 to compliment Sneyd.
Has anyone heard or seen any rumours of anyone we could potentially be looking at?
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| Was thinking this last night . With a (fully fit) Kelly in that team, we could be very dangerous.
That said , we looked nicely balanced with Carlos at stand off.
Connor at full back is a must. Been saying it for two years.
Moneys going to be tight. Do we look at bringing someone in or go with what we have? Or any recruitment goes to other areas (another forward?).
Just wish we could keep Ratu to be honest!
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| Quote ="Aswilco93"Sorry if already been discussed but who do you guys think should replace Albert Kelly next season?
With Connor’s impressive performances at full back and IMO it is his best position I would like to see us make a move for an out and out 6 to compliment Sneyd.
Has anyone heard or seen any rumours of anyone we could potentially be looking at?'"
Not heard and rumours but would like to think we are looking for a quality replacement. Also I'd like to see another forward to cover departures although Bowden and Fash have stepped up to the mark in recent weeks. Finances allowing of course.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Not heard and rumours but would like to think we are looking for a quality replacement. Also I'd like to see another forward to cover departures although Bowden and Fash have stepped up to the mark in recent weeks. Finances allowing of course.'"
If, as we all assume, Jones is going and hadn't been so eager to give Shaul a new deal we would have had the money for a quality player in any position.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Was thinking this last night . With a (fully fit) Kelly in that team, we could be very dangerous.
That said , we looked nicely balanced with Carlos at stand off.
Connor at full back is a must. Been saying it for two years.
Moneys going to be tight. Do we look at bringing someone in or go with what we have? Or any recruitment goes to other areas (another forward?).
Just wish we could keep Ratu to be honest!'"
Carlos is wasted at six and we also miss his defence at centre
A running half has to be a priority for next season.
Like Albo Ratu will be a huge miss next season.We just have to hope he hates standing around with nothing to do on the wing at Bristol and decides R/L is his game and asks Hull if he can come back.
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| Quote ="WestEndThinker"If, as we all assume, Jones is going and hadn't been so eager to give Shaul a new deal we would have had the money for a quality player in any position.'"
So no money worries this year or next.
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| Quote ="ccs"So no money worries this year or next.
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Where did i say that?. silly individual.
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| This sums up everything about the club for too long, immediately looking outside the clubs youth system for pivotal roles.We haven't had a proper 6 since Rich Horne though Tommy Lee came along as a half but was shifted to back up hooker. Basically 20 years since we gave a home grown half a proper run.
Are we so incapable of developing these players and give them a chance to progress?
I really don't see carlos as a 6 despite him playing there at a junior level, and neither is Connor, we're forcing a scenario on the back of continually recruiting/squeezing too many of same players into a squad, this is why we have no home grown wingers or centres either.
As above, keeping Shaul has restricted things but he's not the bigger problem, poor/wrong recruitment in the first instance over many years and a failure to develop from within is why we continually seem to be on the back foot regards cap space.
There were just four Hull developed players in the team against Warrington
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"This sums up everything about the club for too long, immediately looking outside the clubs youth system for pivotal roles.We haven't had a proper 6 since Rich Horne though Tommy Lee came along as a half but was shifted to back up hooker. Basically 20 years since we gave a home grown half a proper run.
Are we so incapable of developing these players and give them a chance to progress?
I really don't see carlos as a 6 despite him playing there at a junior level, and neither is Connor, we're forcing a scenario on the back of continually recruiting/squeezing too many of same players into a squad, this is why we have no home grown wingers or centres either.
As above, keeping Shaul has restricted things but he's not the bigger problem, poor/wrong recruitment in the first instance over many years and a failure to develop from within is why we continually seem to be on the back foot regards cap space.
There were just four Hull developed players in the team against Warrington'"
I like McNamara, looks a real prospect but think he is a 7 rather than a 6. Problem I think we have is we need a top quality player at stand off, would he happy developing a younger player in that position if we are happy with a mid-table finish but the aim has to be top 4.
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| Get the checkbook out and buy Jake Trueman.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Carlos is wasted at six and we also miss his defence at centre
A running half has to be a priority for next season.
Like Albo Ratu will be a huge miss next season.We just have to hope he hates standing around with nothing to do on the wing at Bristol and decides R/L is his game and asks Hull if he can come back.'"
Think he was probably pretty bored last night! 27 meters for him, Warrington definitely kept the ball away from him
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| Carlos is definitely wasted at 6. Need him.back in the centre.
I'd still have conner at fb. That was where he played for hudds when he ripped us a new one. Also, he has really showed his class there since shaul has been out.
For me, I'd go with McNamara at 6. Pre season with sneyd and conner at fb taking the pressure off him and sneyd.
Then, either give bienek/brown more game time. If whoever is in charge, doesn't think they have what it takes, then look for a new forward.
Dont think we need any big changes in.the way of players. Maybe go.with a smaller squad next year(smaller in numbers)
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| IMO your 6 should always be more attacking with the ball rather than a player maker like a 7 - George Williams spring to mind and I was always gutted we could never get Rangi Chase over the line.
Connor isn’t a 6 and he isn’t really a 7 so full back suits him well, a position where he can choose when and not to come into the attacking line.
The full back position is changing as the game changes, you need to be pretty much a 3rd half back but it gives your play so much more creativity.
They weren’t up to scratch on Thursday but Warrington have this perfect blend with Rachford, Austin & Widdop
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| Quote ="Aswilco93"IMO your 6 should always be more attacking with the ball rather than a player maker like a 7 - George Williams spring to mind and I was always gutted we could never get Rangi Chase over the line.
Connor isn’t a 6 and he isn’t really a 7 so full back suits him well, a position where he can choose when and not to come into the attacking line.
The full back position is changing as the game changes, you need to be pretty much a 3rd half back but it gives your play so much more creativity.
They weren’t up to scratch on Thursday but Warrington have this perfect blend with Rachford, Austin & Widdop'"
So to answer your own question, who would you fancy to replace Albert, if we are going with Jake at fullback, which incidentally blocks the way for not only Shaul, but Wynne in the future as well.
It’s a tricky decision.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"So to answer your own question, who would you fancy to replace Albert, if we are going with Jake at fullback, which incidentally blocks the way for not only Shaul, but Wynne in the future as well.
It’s a tricky decision.'"
You are assuming that we'll keep hold of Connor. I'm not sure we will, possibly not even until his contract expires.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"You are assuming that we'll keep hold of Connor. I'm not sure we will, possibly not even until his contract expires.'"
Of course, anything is possible, but can only discuss the here and now, unless you know something?
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Of course, anything is possible, but can only discuss the here and now, unless you know something?'"
As Manuel used to say 'I know nothing'.
Just throwing it in there. His stock has increased in the last few weeks, and he's the sort who will be attracted to the light.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"As Manuel used to say 'I know nothing'.
Just throwing it in there. His stock has increased in the last few weeks, and he's the sort who will be attracted to the light.
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You can’t much more than have him contracted, or enhance it, I’m sure AP is well aware of this, even then it guarantees nothing.
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| Connor is one of the few "assets" the club has at the moment, people seem to be forgetting the severe financial position the club is in at the moment.
When your house is close to being repossessed, do you sell the Rolls Royce and buy a Mini?
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| Quote ="ccs"Connor is one of the few "assets" the club has at the moment, people seem to be forgetting the severe financial position the club is in at the moment.
When your house is close to being repossessed, do you sell the Rolls Royce and buy a Mini?'"
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| Quote ="Large Paws"^^^^^^^
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Sorry I’m confused, are you advocating selling our prized asset.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Sorry I’m confused, are you advocating selling our prized asset.'"
No I’m not. Just saying, what if finances dictate we have to?
Or, and possibly more likely. He is lured away?
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| Quote ="Large Paws"No I’m not. Just saying, what if finances dictate we have to?
Or, and possibly more likely. He is lured away?'"
Ah ok, let’s hope neither happens
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| Quote ="Large Paws"No I’m not. Just saying, what if finances dictate we have to?
Or, and possibly more likely. He is lured away?'"
Why the doom and gloom regarding our finances?
What evidence do you have as your basis?
If Rovers can survive off pass sales, still recruit for next year and possibly have a more expensive coaching set up in Smith and Maguire then I'm sure we're okay, things might be tight as with all clubs but okay.
Otherwise how do you explain us still actively recruiting for a coach and even possibly pay compensation for the coach we wanted.
I just find talk like that unnecessary, unsettling and with no grounding.
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