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| just read brierly in the mail saying a new coach coming in any info on that?
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"just read brierly in the mail saying a new coach coming in any info on that?'"
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Quote “I understand Andy Last’s frustration and I’m sure he’s just looking forward to the new coach coming in and settling the ship at the moment.'"
“I understand Andy Last’s frustration and I’m sure he’s just looking forward to Tony coming in and settling the ship at the moment.
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| Let's hope he's right!!
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| Non-story, this is just Brierley upset that Last was a bit withering in his response to the idea that we were chasing him.
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| Think it will happen. Not sure when though. Just think AP is not daft, and he’s been in and around sporting clubs enough to know when change is needed.
We need structure, systems and an improved ethos and culture.
A coach who knows more than one way to play and can get the best out of a “team” and not “individuals”.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Non-story, this is just Brierley upset that Last was a bit withering in his response to the idea that we were chasing him.'"
Agree. I read it as a little dig at Last. Actually made me laugh.
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| If a new coach does come in, we need to clear the decks so Last would need to go, he's too set in a way that is not effective unless you have a huge set of variables aligned for sustained periods and is not sustainable medium to long term both in terms of winning silverware and developing foundations for a club.
It's going to take minimum of 2 years if not 3 to fully rebuild the squad properly, get rid of the driftwood and change the way our players and indeed the youth system go about playing rugby. I just wonder how long fans are prepared to wait after a few years of miserable rugby already.
It does need to happen before season end so they can make decisions that have a bearing on training/personnel for 2021
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| I think some are now disregarding the comments on financial jeopardy for many clubs a few weeks ago and reiterated by Rimmer, simply because we are back playing. I wouldn't automatically expect the club to be "winning silverware" when it's existence could be under threat, particularly with the new wave of restrictions coming in. I would agree that optimism is one element in getting fans to renew, which is where the survival battle will be, but the club is limited in planning change by existing contracts, market availability and how much loyalty it can feel confident to assume in its fanbase, which is really its only asset.
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| I don't think Pearson will have a choice if we continue as we are, keep Last and it will hurt him financially a lot harder in the long run.
I still can't work out why he choose last over Purtill who has alot more first coach experience.
Last IMO would be foolish to take the job, he could have a job for life at Hull in some capacity, if he takes on the head coach job FT, I'm pretty sure within two years he won't be at Hull.
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| Good Points Dave and Mrs B it all about selling season tickets next year now, some of us will subscribe whatever, but already there is a general malaise amongst the fans you only have to look how many come on here now. Clubs desperately need fans back into ground this year but with anxiety still high around the older community, restrictions being increased again and the way we are playing in general, that is going to be a big ask.
We may as you say Dave have to speculate a little to even survive!
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| If we lose both games this weekend, as seems likely, that could be pivotal and I don't see Last surviving it. The balancing act of finances, fan loyalty, covid impacts, contracts, squad composition, coach availability etc are complex and nuanced. If we can navigate the pandemic and survive that will be objective #1 achieved IMO.
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| I can't see fans being allowed back this year.
Even if they were, an 8k limit would, in theory, only allow passholders in, so the financial benefit would be nil, probably a loss.
Walkups are actually what the club needs to make some money, not all passholders would attend, but I can't see much money being made.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"G 'anxiety still high around the older community, restrictions being increased again and the way we are playing in general, that is going to be a big ask.
We may as you say Dave have to speculate a little to even survive!'"
Summarises RL imo, real challenge is attracting new younger fans to the sport.Little if any presence within the media, whose sole overwhelming focus appears to be upon football add to the mix the RFL ineffective inept operational structure a lack of coherent strategy to expansion we could be back to semi professional northern sport within the next few years.
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| I wouldn't be surprised to see Lasty revert back to his old position of Head of Youth at Hull next season.
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| Steve McNamara now coaching the top side in SL.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I don't think Pearson will have a choice if we continue as we are, keep Last and it will hurt him financially a lot harder in the long run.
I still can't work out why he choose last over Purtill who has alot more first coach experience.
Last IMO would be foolish to take the job, he could have a job for life at Hull in some capacity, if he takes on the head coach job FT, I'm pretty sure within two years he won't be at Hull.'"
I think Pearson always had Last in his thoughts as an interim coach.
He knows we need a big name and well respected coach at the club.
The coaching needs change from top to bottom at all levels of the club so that the younger players at the club are aligned to the first team,
There is no room for sentiment in business.
Club Hull needs to be dismantled and local players need to perform to be selected
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I wouldn't be surprised to see Lasty revert back to his old position of Head of Youth at Hull next season.'"
Well that would be ambition for you
Prepared to sit for seven years under Radford
Several months of Interim Head coach
Then accepts a job of Head of youth
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I wouldn't be surprised to see Lasty revert back to his old position of Head of Youth at Hull next season.'"
I wouldn't be suprised either !!.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If we lose both games this weekend, as seems likely, that could be pivotal and I don't see Last surviving it. The balancing act of finances, fan loyalty, covid impacts, contracts, squad composition, coach availability etc are complex and nuanced. If we can navigate the pandemic and survive that will be objective #1 achieved IMO.
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Last doesn't want the job he would rather stay on as assistant.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Last doesn't want the job he would rather stay on as assistant.'"
Wonder who we're considering then, Purtill?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Wonder who we're considering then, Purtill?'"
If that was the case then he would have it now, it has to be someone from the outside.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Last doesn't want the job he would rather stay on as assistant.'"
I could be wrong but, didn't Last turn down the chance to take charge (or put his name on the list) once before?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"If we lose both games this weekend, as seems likely, that could be pivotal and I don't see Last surviving it. The balancing act of finances, fan loyalty, covid impacts, contracts, squad composition, coach availability etc are complex and nuanced. If we can navigate the pandemic and survive that will be objective #1 achieved IMO.
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must be gutting your negativity regards results hasn't bore fruit, you're such a doom and gloom merchant!
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"must be gutting your negativity regards results hasn't bore fruit, you're such a doom and gloom merchant!'"
Silly. Try the match thread for discussion of last night's result and assess Tone on there. I'm very chipper this morning.
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