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| Hadley & Litten, to our neighbours with immediate effect, thank them both for all their efforts for us.
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| …. "As part of the deal, a highly rated Hull KR academy player will also move the other way to Hull FC."
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| Quote ="ccs"…. "As part of the deal, a highly rated Hull KR academy player will also move the other way to Hull FC."'"
Who is it CCS
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Who is it CCS'" It hasn't been announced yet.
Reports suggest Hadley and Litten have gone out on loan until the end of the season, with 3 year contracts afterwards.
I [ithink[/i this means that it won't help out on out cap space for this season.
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| Why have they gone now with the business end of the season fast approaching? Hadley would have been more than useful.
AP helping his mate out? This stinks.
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| Quote ="ccs"It hasn't been announced yet.
Reports suggest Hadley and Litten have gone out on loan until the end of the season, with 3 year contracts afterwards.
I [ithink[/i this means that it won't help out on out cap space for this season.'"
Thanks
It does make you wonder, if other clubs would be so magnanimous with local rivals.
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| Quote ="ccs"It hasn't been announced yet.
Reports suggest Hadley and Litten have gone out on loan until the end of the season, with 3 year contracts afterwards.
I [ithink[/i this means that it won't help out on out cap space for this season.'"
If they have gone out on loan then surely they don't count on the cap for the time they are away from the club?
Although who knows?!
Interesting move this. Clearly Radders has no intention of playing departing players if he can help it. Wonder if we'll see Green again?
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| I wonder if Mr H woukld have been so kind to us had the situations been reversed. Reports that Danny Washbrooke has signed for York for next season too.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I wonder if Mr H woukld have been so kind to us had the situations been reversed. Reports that Danny Washbrooke has signed for York for next season too.'"
Eeerrrrrrrm no
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I wonder if Mr H woukld have been so kind to us had the situations been reversed. Reports that Danny Washbrooke has signed for York for next season too.'"
Well they did give us Albert Wilf
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| Quote ="scarrie"If they have gone out on loan then surely they don't count on the cap for the time they are away from the club?
Although who knows?!
Interesting move this. Clearly Radders has no intention of playing departing players if he can help it. Wonder if we'll see Green again?'"
I'm pretty sure they still count on the cap, otherwise it would be too simple for clubs to exceed the cap.
The advantage is rovers will pay the players 3 months salary each, rather than us paying it, so instead of being out of pocket by £25k, say, we'll have £25k in the bank.
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| Quote ="ccs"I'm pretty sure they still count on the cap, otherwise it would be too simple for clubs to exceed the cap.
The advantage is rovers will pay the players 3 months salary each, rather than us paying it, so instead of being out of pocket by £25k, say, we'll have £25k in the bank. So £50k better off.'"
If its a live cap, surely it will just change all the time as long as you don't exceed the cap, hence it been a live cap. So for example today we are at 1.8 million, tomorrow after players leaving the live cap will be 1.7 million. That's how I would of thought it worked anyway, otherwise what does live cap mean. Of course could be completely wrong
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"If its a live cap, surely it will just change all the time as long as you don't exceed the cap, hence it been a live cap. So for example today we are at 1.8 million, tomorrow after players leaving the live cap will be 1.7 million. That's how I would of thought it worked anyway, otherwise what does live cap mean. Of course could be completely wrong'" The players are still on our books, but loaned out. The cap is the top 25 earners + anyone else who plays, so Hadlee and Litten are still counted.
If they didn't count, we could have loaned out Dawson for the season, and used his cap space on someone else.
Live cap means adjustments are made when someone outside the top 25 plays for the first time in the season, or when a player is no longer registered with the club.
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| Quote ="ccs"The players are still on our books, but loaned out. The cap is the top 25 earners + anyone else who plays, so Hadlee and Litten are still counted.
If they didn't count, we could have loaned out Dawson for the season, and used his cap space on someone else.
Live cap means adjustments are made when someone outside the top 25 plays for the first time in the season, or when a player is no longer registered with the club.'"
Haha, my method sounds much more sensible
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"Haha, my method sounds much more sensible'"
You and sensible in the same sentence. Haha.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"You and sensible in the same sentence. Haha.'"
I speaks lots of sense, your just in denial
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I love how people guess, without checking anything.
For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.
It's easy enough to find out.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288
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I love how people guess, without checking anything.
For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.
It's easy enough to find out.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288
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Quote ="Stanley Unwin"I love how people guess, without checking anything.
For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.
It's easy enough to find out.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288'"
Haha thanks for that.
It's quite common for certain people on here to get opinion mixed up with fact
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Quote ="Stanley Unwin"I love how people guess, without checking anything.
For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.
It's easy enough to find out.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288'"
Haha thanks for that.
It's quite common for certain people on here to get opinion mixed up with fact
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Quote ="Stanley Unwin"I love how people guess, without checking anything.
For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.
It's easy enough to find out.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288'"
… fair enough, I was confusing it with dual reg which would still count on the club's cap.
I see that there is also a clause explicitly saying that injured players cannot be loaned out to reduce salary cap liability.
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Quote ="Stanley Unwin"I love how people guess, without checking anything.
For Salary cap purpose, a loan is treated in the same way as a transfer. The loanee ceases to count on the salary cap of their parent club and their value will be transferred to the salary cap of their new club. Regardless of who pays their wages.
It's easy enough to find out.
https://www.rugby-league.com/flipbooks/ ... html#p=288'"
… fair enough, I was confusing it with dual reg which would still count on the club's cap.
I see that there is also a clause explicitly saying that injured players cannot be loaned out to reduce salary cap liability.
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| Quote ="the cal train"Why have they gone now with the business end of the season fast approaching? Hadley would have been more than useful.
AP helping his mate out? This stinks.'"
Whatever us fans think of Rovers, the benefits to Hull FC of them remaining in Superleague are tangible. The derby matches generate so much extra revenue
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| Quote ="scarrie"If they have gone out on loan then surely they don't count on the cap for the time they are away from the club?
Although who knows?!
Interesting move this. Clearly Radders has no intention of playing departing players if he can help it. Wonder if we'll see Green again?'"
“No intention of playing departing players” - Not quote as he’s still playing Westerman.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"“No intention of playing departing players” - Not quote as he’s still playing Westerman.'"
Shouldnt be as his recent form is poor.
Would rather have had Hadley in there for the last two or thee games as Westerman is just going through the motions
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| Player welfare, as a rugby club we have an moral obligation to look after players, if we aren't going to play them and they have the chance to play SL, then I think we have to do that,particularly for players who have given their all for the club.
Not too bothered about Hadley, but think it's an error with Litten.
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