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Time for action Adam
if you are not going to replace Lee Radford then cut some of the deadwood we have and look again at the contract extensions we have given and get some new players in to freshen up the squad.
I also know The club are still in contact with Motu and there are 2nd grade players in Australia far superior to some we have so time to start serious work so we dont completely lose the momentum built in 2016 and 2017

why? are you gonna apply for the job?

Did you and Bumpy even contemplate having a glance over your shoulders as you rowed away in the lifeboat while the women and children were stranded on the top deck?

And therein lies the problem. Stop signing overage, average, antipodean players and invest in your own academy and reserve grade.
Having six, seven or eight overseas players is NOT the answer. The RFL need to act quickly and get the numbers down to at most four, personally I'd like it to be two.

Rogues is right. However, do we think that a shared academy can ever produce enough players to allow 2 Super League clubs to flourish?

In effect, it has to produce twice as many players as the other academies do just to match them.

My feeling is that Hull and Rovers, for most of their modern histories, have been net importers high-end of RL talent, even setting aside overseas players. And I'm not sure it is all that much down to just investment. I suspect that local fan interest is high, even by heartlands standards, allowing us to support two clubs but the number of outstanding athletes with the inclination and potential to play SL to a good standard is more in line with what you'd expect given our relatively modest catchment population - Hull and the whole of East Yorkshire is about 600,000 people, which is a good bit less than Leeds by itself and West Yorkshire is 2.2 million. Nigh on four times as many people providing talent to supply only twice as many current SL teams.

Perhaps to compensate for that the net is being spread wider sooner - Oakes, Dagger, Bienek, the Badham twins and so on. If we can draw on a big enough pool of raw(-ish) talent, then we've a chance. It comes with logistical challenges, but if we rely only on lads from West Hull and Skirlaugh, then it'll always be a bit of a struggle.

Last night our only overseas players were Faraimo, Talanoa, Carlos and Manu.

Of those Manu has vast NRL experience, and while out of form currently can't be considered average.

Faraimo has scored a lot of tries in a struggling team and physically is bigger than a lot of wingers in SL, ive also seen some creative kicks and touches this year. He has more skills to be developed I feel.

The other two you might have more of an argument for 'Wouldent a British player be as good or better' but you have to consider the home grown centre/wing option is the unimpressive Logan.

We did develop our last few centres and Wings but Briscoe got so good he chose to leave, Lineham couldn't behave himself and of course we developed and played Yeaman for years. I don't think we are the worst club for development.

Also, actually it depends on the question. From a Hull perspective, if the question is 'how many overseas players were in the team that broke your Wembley hoodoo to lift the 2016 Challenge Cup?', the answer is in fact seven. And it was six the next year, when they won again. It's all too easy to scapegoat these migrant workers, but if you want success, you should look at what a player can do before you look at where he's from or where he learned to do it.

James Smailes: Have an exclusive online shortly with chairman Adam Pearson which Hull FC fans won’t want to miss. “Complacency has set in and I can tell the players that complacency is about to have a bomb thrown into it. There will be changes.” https://t.co/4TpnlRSyep

James Smailes: Have an exclusive online shortly with chairman Adam Pearson which Hull FC fans won’t want to miss. “Complacency has set in and I can tell the players that complacency is about to have a bomb thrown into it. There will be changes.” https://t.co/4TpnlRSyep

So it's all down to the players? Like I said, Radford is going nowhere

Pretty much what he said in 2015 I think. Worked out OK.

Was it? I don't remember that

Difference this time is we dont have Manu, Pritchard, Fonua, Carlos and Taylor arriving over the Winter, we’re stuck with the lazy bunch we’ve got

Though Danny houghtons after match interview spoke volumes to be honest , definitely sounded like dressing room problems and are unlikely to be resolved in the near future . I think most on here have sensibly given radford greif over the last few years , and Have understood he was a work in progress. Just think if he's lost the dressing room , his tenures up sooner rather than later , a couple more performances like that before the end of the season and Pearson will have no choice . I'd be dissaponted if radford didn't stick to his word and resigned before it came to that though

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Is it coincidence that the troubles have started since the return of Westerman?

Aaron Bower: Phwoar.. good stuff this. Adam Pearson says Hull will now recruit three or four players and get rid of some, too. And if they're under contract and 'they don’t want to go, we will send them to play dual registration at Doncaster and they can stay there.' Wow! https://t.co/Wc9Sd3LgUx

Aaron Bower: Phwoar.. good stuff this. Adam Pearson says Hull will now recruit three or four players and get rid of some, too. And if they're under contract and 'they don’t want to go, we will send them to play dual registration at Doncaster and they can stay there.' Wow! https://t.co/Wc9Sd3LgUx

No nothing to do with Westerman. it started in Australia with the spat between Taylor and Watts
Club obviously supported Taylor but big big mistake getting rid of Watts

So who's he talking about?

Senior players last night

Shaun
Faraimo
Carlos
Griffin
Taylor
Houghton
Paea
Hadley
Washroom
Manu

I presume he's meaning some of those?

Only green, sneyd and mini played other than that recently. Sneyd to wigan was doing the rounds a while ago. Is that who Radford was referring to last night?

Smailes:
Have to say, known Adam a long time and interviewed him many times and cannot remember him being more angry and feeling let down than he was today. He's seething and feels some players are not paying back the trust and investment club has given them. He's come out swinging.

Someone told me today there is a split in the camp with one group being pro Radford and the other not. Dunno if it's true but stuff he's told me before has generally been right.

Let's hope Pearson also invests in adding to the coaching staff

Gaz Ellis already now on the coaching staff and i expect he will take charge of the reserve team
I just hope the said four new senior players coming in over the winter are what we need rather than what Radford thinks we need.
I understand Adam Pearson will be taking more of a role in the new 2018/9 recruitment and is in regular contact with Motu

Can’t fault Pearson’s comments, he is passionate and knows he has to spend to get us out of this mess or he will face a financial hit in pass sales anyway. Can we fly Motu back in for a couple of months of wheeling and dealing!?

I thought Motu had swapped rugby league for a job with NZ baseball?

Presumably he's coming over anyway in a few weeks in his new position of General Manager for NZRL.