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| Whilst on paper it's a great draw, according to AP's programme notes their chairman is massively up for expecting them to cause an upset and anything could happen; e.g. if we lost Connor with Sneyd, Kelly, Westerman and Abdull all unavailable we'd really struggle IMO. Sounds like Radford will be taking a strong squad so would expect something like the squad that beat Cas with Sneyd and Westerman dropping out and Washbrook and Miloudi coming in?
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| think for the first 20 min there will come out all guns blazing, whos gonna partner connor? we have miloudi, tuime, washy or even Hadley? we should win ok but we are talking fc here lol,
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| Presume that Westerman is cup-tied? Was a sub in round 4 v Kells, didn't play in round 5. Gives him another week to get fitter and more into our way of playing ahead of Magic Weekend.
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| Quote ="Cardiff_05"Presume that Westerman is cup-tied? Was a sub in round 4 v Kells, didn't play in round 5. Gives him another week to get fitter and more into our way of playing ahead of Magic Weekend.'"
Is there a thing whereby the cup tie rule restarts at the QF stage. I thought something happened after Thackraygate but could be wrong!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Is there a thing whereby the cup tie rule restarts at the QF stage. I thought something happened after Thackraygate but could be wrong!'"
I thought that too but wasn't sure if I'd dreamt it!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Is there a thing whereby the cup tie rule restarts at the QF stage. I thought something happened after Thackraygate but could be wrong!'"
Hopefully the club have checked!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Is there a thing whereby the cup tie rule restarts at the QF stage. I thought something happened after Thackraygate but could be wrong!'"
Only if they haven't played for another side in the cup that season. All thanks to steve evans RIP
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Whilst on paper it's a great draw, according to AP's programme notes their chairman is massively up for expecting them to cause an upset and anything could happen; e.g. if we lost Connor with Sneyd, Kelly, Westerman and Abdull all unavailable we'd really struggle IMO. Sounds like Radford will be taking a strong squad so would expect something like the squad that beat Cas with Sneyd and Westerman dropping out and Washbrook and Miloudi coming in?'"
I haven't seen Mark Campbell quoted as saying anything like that but to be fair he's not going to say "yeah it will be little more than a training run-out for your lads, barely worth your supporters showing up", this is a bit of a money-spinner for a part-time Championship club to draw such a well-supported club as Hull FC.
In all honesty, given some fairly ordinary Championship clubs have scored plenty of tries past us this season (and Doncaster scored three in the 1st half in the previous round) I suspect you'll put up a big score against us, mind you I thought that in 1983 too, but it's a different game these days and we have regularly shipped huge scores even against out-of-form SL opposition in the middle 8s the last couple of years. We also had a gruelling game in France on Saturday when we were well beaten. We can play some attractive rugby on our day though and it will be interesting to see if we can trouble a SL defence at all.
Expect to read and hear lots about Luke Briscoe this week, he's already broken Martin Offiah's summer-era record for consecutive games coring a try and if he can score one on Thursday he'll equal the all-time record. Might turn out to be unlucky that he runs into a quality SL team right on the threshold of the record but he deserves the attention as he's been our best player this year and one of the most improved players I've seen in years, I'll be interested to see if he can give you any problems as it's another world winning the collisions against a SL team (as he regularly does at Championship level, habitually earning about 3 penalties per game as the opposition desperately tries to stop his quick play-the-balls).
Safe journey for everyone coming over from Hull.
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| Squad's announced - Taylor, Kelly, Sneyd, Fash, Abdull out but Westerman in as he didn't actually play in the cup for Toronto.
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| Yeah he was injured in the warm up and didn't play
Shaul
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Talanoa
Maloudi
Carlos
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| Strange about Westerman, I'd have thought with him named in the team, that would count, I hope the club have checked this out.
I'd leave out Mini and Litten, so team as above apart from houghton for Litten.
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| I hope the club has checked the Westy issue about 8 times to be certain
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| hope if we win the toss before kick off, we chose to play down the slope first half, remember radford going barmy about us not doing so in whitings' testimonial game
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| Quote ="Chris28"I hope the club has checked the Westy issue about 8 times to be certain'"
We wouldn't be that stupid again...would we?
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| I couldn't find any references to westerman [inot[/i playing in the kells game when we first signed him.
I've looked again, and all I see is his name on the official team sheet.
No mention one way or the other in the match summaries.
He wasn't picked for the following game, but no detail at all.
RFL..... "A player who plays for a Club in the cup cannot, in the same Season, play for another Club in the Cup."
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| I hope Radford doesnt play Connor and Tuimavave in the halves meaning we have a makeshift centre to find.
Ideal game to play Miloudi at half back so we dont have to move Tuimavave from left centre.
If it works then we can carry Miloudi/Connor into the HKR and Warrington games without moving other players around.
The other option is to play Westerman with Connor which is what i think Radford will do.
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| Quote ="ccs"
RFL..... "A player who plays for a Club in the cup cannot, in the same Season, play for another Club in the Cup."'"
So its clear then that Westy can play for us in the cup as its doesn't state 'A player on the team sheet' but 'A player who plays'
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| Quote ="bonaire"I hope Radford doesnt play Connor and Tuimavave in the halves meaning we have a makeshift centre to find.
Ideal game to play Miloudi at half back so we dont have to move Tuimavave from left centre.
If it works then we can carry Miloudi/Connor into the HKR and Warrington games without moving other players around.
The other option is to play Westerman with Connor which is what i think Radford will do.'"
He's said he's playing Carlos and Connor in his press conference wonder if Logan will be brought in
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| Quote ="bonaire"I hope Radford doesnt play Connor and Tuimavave in the halves meaning we have a makeshift centre to find.
Ideal game to play Miloudi at half back so we dont have to move Tuimavave from left centre.
If it works then we can carry Miloudi/Connor into the HKR and Warrington games without moving other players around.
The other option is to play Westerman with Connor which is what i think Radford will do.'"
Like you said, perfect time for Hakim to show us what he can do. Hope he gets the nod but not looking likely.
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| Quote ="Karen"We wouldn't be that stupid again...would we?'"
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| If carlos stepping in the halfs maybe Miloudi to centre ??
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| Quote ="fcthefuture"If carlos stepping in the halfs maybe Miloudi to centre ??'"
cant see the point moving players around when this guy is already playing half back for Doncaster.
I thought Logan was injured so if you move Tuimavave into the halves we have to find a makeshift centre.
With kelly out for another three weeks and Sneyd four weeks minimum we need a half back partnership without moving too many players around thats why playing Miloudi at half back against Featherstone for me makes sense and would give the coach an idea whether he could carry the Miloudi/Connor half back partnership into the HKR and Warrington games.
No point naming him in the squad if he isnt going to play.
As i said before we can always play Westerman in the Halfs.
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| Miloudi not playing in the halves would be a mistake for a fair few reasons as mentioned above, I don't want Westerman and certainly not Washbrook playing there, it'll snuff out our fitness and speed advantage and end up being a crash bang wallop affair which we don't want given our injury situation.
Miloudi and Connor all day long and this means we can rest one or two forwards including Houghton.
As for the Westerman situation, it depends on what the definition of 'played' means, if you are named in the squad to play but don't could that be construed as taken part in the event, this is a problem with the RFL, their defintion's have always being somewhat subjective/open to interpretation at times and undermines their legal position when it comes to certain aspects, you only need look at the whole Wigan salary cap debacle.
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| Quote ="Chris28"I hope the club has checked the Westy issue about 8 times to be certain'"
I'm sure there'll be a snivelling snitch emailing the RFL to appeal that it shouldn't be allowed.
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