Just cant believe how far we have gone backwards this season, we are so far off the pace its unbelievable. That play at the end to gift Catalans territory jist about summed up our season, wanting to take everything without wanting to work for it.

Our defensive structure is the biggest concern for me conceding way too many points but the way we lose the wrestle and just let opposition players run at us is a big concern. Its getting to the point nearly every set we allow the opposition an attacking kick. This is the worse defensive structure since Agar IMO.

In attack we seem to never finish off clean breaks or pull out dumb off loads. They is no urgency at all and if it wasn't for Sneyd we would be far worse off this season.

Penalties are creeping well in and at crucial times, aside from a handful of players alot of this team are way below standard. We wont be near any finals or the top 4, its going to be a long season for me and I worry when they do get it together it will be far too late.

We need another prop to help Taylor out and a wide runner who can make breaks.

Good post. Green hardly plays, Bowden looking championship quality, watts, fonua and ellis gone and not adequately replaced. Taylor our best forward by miles and if he gets injured were fubar'd.

The forwards are the real issue. Were soft defensively all over the field and our basic skills are awful. Well finish 6th at best

Squad needs refreshing

Agree with both of the above posts. Still time to turn it around though

even thought Hadley was quite tonight, did manu come back on ?

And here's me thinking we beat Leeds last week, I must have been dreaming.

westy will save us

No point beating Leeds if you then lose to cack like Catalans whilst playing like a bunch of 7 year olds.

What is it with our away form? It's been terrible for nearly a year now

Nowhere near this year . Beat the Champions , lose to bottom of the league sums us up !

The problem is when we beat Leeds we were probably playing in our top gear were as Leeds would have it down as a poor performance. They nearly beat us by playing for 15 minutes.

I don't think we've got anywhere near top gear this year

I think the gearbox is ed and we can only select first or reverse

Watts is an enormous miss. Outstanding in a very good Cas side.

Any news on abdull? Hope the lad is well. (Rhinos fan)

Think it could come back and bite us big time,getting rid of one of our best forwards mid term to one of our rivals.We could do with somebody of Watt's caliber just now.We may have money in the bank but top four looks a long way off when we see games like this.

broken leg according to radford

Feeling like a Karl Harrison moment right now, isn't it?

its done, move on,

bad news about abdull, hope the kids gets sorted

Pack is weak . I still fail to see what Matongo brings? Just not good enough IMO .

The kids 21 ffs

Thats my point.

Its probably the best we can muster up.

Are you serious about Matongo, one of the few bright spots this season.

Lose Ellis gain Hadley = massive drop in quality. I know people will go on about him being one of our better players but when it comes down to it hes an average player
Lose Watts gain Paea = massive drop in quality. Paea is a shadow of the player he was - very poor this season, Watts one of the best forwards in the league
Lose Fonua gain Feraimo - people dreaming saying Feraimos better
Josh Griffin - an error machine, very average player who's played better and with more energy than most of the rest of the team, what does that say about the rest?
Kellys constantly injured.
Jake Connor totally over hyped
Mini past it
Bowden average
Green always injured too
Motongo, Lane too much being asked of them

Thats why were average to 5hite this season

Is it the forwards are pants (apart from tag) or is it how we play? (or both)
They seem to get a flat pass ball almost standing still, instead of running on to it at some pace.
We are so easy and predictable to defend against, that even a very poor Catalan was quickly on top of us, and in numbers.

We don't run onto the ball, our passing is slow, there are no dummy runners, no direct running, we don't take it to the line before passing the ball out and our support play is appalling