these 2 have taken a bit of flack this year but imo today played really well, Shaul looked comfy in the extra pivot and Griffin apart from a couple of errors imo was immense taking the ball up making yards every carry,Well done fc great win with 12 men, COYH

Wish Shaul would stop trying to kick through and chase on the 3rd tackle when the play breaks down. It very rarely comes off, and we were a man down and camped on Rovers line. Just play the set out and aim for a drop out or something.
But other than that yeah I agree him and Griffin were very strong today. Think the offload late on from Griffin that went to ground was a good play. The pass was definitely on and if it came off would have been a try (Connor was streaming outside of Kelly). Good game by both of them in my opinion

As said before I believe Griffin was suffering an injury most of last season and playing with injections. His stride is something else.

From who?

He's got an error in him but with the ball he's been very strong this season.

Griffin was excellent. Got us out of trouble time after time when the forwards were struggling to get it off our line. Did a solid defensive job in difficult circumstances aswell.

look back tinkerman and you you will find a few,

No one important then , thought they must of been some sort of drama with you having to start a thread about it . Guess not

Both very good today, deserve the plaudits.

You could point to Griffin's poor pass to Kelly when we didn't need to try anything flash but all in all he more than played his part in the win.

Mentioned that one in my post above. Watched the game in pub and there were a lot of complaints about that pass, but in my opinion it was definitely on. Nothing really wrong with the pass, could be maiy argued that Kelly just overran it a little. But if it came off,with Connor running outside of Key it was a likely try and game firmly secured. Im happy to see us chance our arm like that, especially with a 2 try cushion

tinkerbell, you are funny

Shaul – Has incredible attacking flair but have serious doubts on defence.
Watch the game at 14m 25sec the effort by Shaul on Jowitt shows just what issues Shaul has with bigger men.
He’s had this since youth as he was a smaller kid and it was hard for him.
But just look and you’ll see exactly what I mean. Then look at the Dragon’s tries from last week. Many tries from last season. Watch the attempt at 14.25 and you'll see exactly my point and why he needs 5kg extra on him.

so, your professional, experienced and much respected advice is that Shaul gets fat?

Shaul is probably missing an aspect to this game to make him an international, but is a very good SL player.

I don't think his defence is too bad, against Catalans he made some great try saying tackles, he is probably no worst than any other SL FB.

I still think there are improvements to his game, but very happy to have him as our FB.

what improvements do you think he needs?

Pivot play

That's the main difference between him and the other top FB's

agree on that point, but yest I saw a big improvement in his linking up, still think he will get better when the hard grounds come,

that isn't how he plays, we've had some brilliant attacking fullbacks over the years, but I don't that's Radford wants either.

it's still early season on heavy ground though, we wil have to see how the next month goes I guess.

Griffin very good again today. Pleasing to see. You never know, maybe even bonaire will praise him.

He was excellent. Three very handy centres at the club, all bring different qualities.

Griffin was excellent again. Playing with much more confidence this year.

Thought Griffin was outstanding today. Got us on the front foot so many times bringing the ball out with the power of a prop

not only Bonaire a few others as well, always thought he was a decent signing and now looks a very good signing, think he was carrying a groin strain last year, as you say 3 good centres but for me griffin and tuime atm are the starting 2,

Griffin is like an extra prop. If carlos is back on Friday I'd play griffin on the wing and we will lose nothing coming out of backfield

Thats the way I would go too.

If only we could somehow create a Griffin/Connor hybrid. He would be the best centre in the world.