Radford somehow needs to sort it, terrible this year and slot of it dumb, costing us nearly every week.

Another ban coming up.

On another note,

If our fans made half the noise backing the team rather than moaning about decisions the atmosphere should be great.

Its the same players all the time

Definitely needs addressing. But tonight we won comfortably despite losing Manu for 10 (great decision by Sneyd to go for 2 when Manu had just returned and we had a penalty - allowed the team to catch their breath for a minute) and not forgetting the 60 minutes we held on versus Was last week with a man down. The boys are enjoying defending and loving having their backs against the wall. We're making playing ugly look beautiful.

I thought discipline was good tonight apart from the Manu moment but that was more stupid rather than malicicious imo

Aside from the Manu incident which could quite easily see him given a ban, the only thing I can think of from tonight was the spell in the back end of the second half where we were on a team warning, which we again came through unscathed. I get the feeling that Radford has told the boys to push the envelope a bit more in contact and in the ruck, and we are seeing so far this season the teething problems of that from a tactical point of view.

Be interesting what happens to Manu with him playing for Tonga next weekend, as a ban would keep him out of that game, although picked up a knock so might not matter.

We won tonight when few expected it, yet you dicks still moan.

Well done hull discipline and all

I wouldn't worry, I'm sure the RFL will find some creative way of maximising the number of Hull games he'll miss.

So you don't see 4 home games in a row with either a yellow or red card shown a potential issue?

I expect Manu to get 2 to 4 games for tonight

I think he was trying to roll him, but it was careless and haven seen it on the telly looked bad,

I know. You'd think it was some kind of discussion forum, for people to discuss the game.

sorry but that really isn't 'careless', it's a deliberate act on Manu's part and is dangerous with potentially horrible outcomes.
I guess you may not have had a 16 stone bloke forcing your arm against the joint with force when you're incapable of stopping it due to being held and flat on your back/stomach? if that was done by an opposing teams player our fans would be baying for blood, should get two games at least and deservedly so.

Only one dick on this thread, someone who can't understand discussion, the other thread has plenty of positives comments, this one is to discuss our issues with discipline, which unless you are blind we clearly have.

Stupid by Sika. Apart from that there's no major concern over discipline.

The only incident I'd call stupid was Manu. No idea what he was thinking.

Most of the other stuff has been stupid calls by the ref - last week is a case in point. I'm not seeing us be any worse than last season and yet we're getting pinged more. Wonder why...

I was a fly on the wall at the recent ref's meeting. Under AOB, alarmingly, was
" Let's make sure we get Hull " Motion passed unanimously.

What's worse depending on which forum one visits, the agenda item reads " Let's get Warrington...Wigan...Saints...Leeds..."

IF any of them clubs can give evidence as to a player being harshly treated ala Watts then I'd agree with you but somehow I doubt it.

Even the player he fouled? and his coach felt it wasn't worthy of a ban yet he gets 2 matches.

Amor, who plays for Saints, did something far worse and got sending off sufficient. Wish we had the agenda that applies to Saints!

There definitely is. Sending offs, yellow cards and too many penalties conceded. When we cut this out we look really good. When we don't we get humped by average teams like salford and leeds

Guess your only watching in slow motion replays, yes stupid , deliberate I dont think so . At full speed id say is initial thought was to try turning him over, the pull on his arm lasted a second , then he released. Careless and stupid for me, any more than 2 games would be harsh imo

No there isn't. Defence was the issue in those games. We're not doing anything differently to last season in respect of discipline.

Last year we where 9th for penalties conceded , this year 2nd, it is a problem, alot of Leeds and Salfords pens came on the back of poor penalties.

Looking at this, the anmount of players sin inner, sent off and banned I think discipline is clearly an issue, even on Friday with a good lead we gave away a series of penalties and was put on a team warning, luckily good goal line defence and poor Warrington play stopped them getting back in the game.

On average, less than 2 penalties per game more than the team with the fewest.
Not what I'd call significant, never mind lacking in discipline.

And the red/yellow cards - more down to the referees and their different interpretations of the rules.

eg

It is, a lot are dumb (including a few with the ball in hand)and also late in the tackle count, at times last season I though we where poor, but much worst this year.

Don't agree about the refs, Watts apart I think all the decisions were correct.

Certainly been dealt harsly by the RL disciplinary though.

Crikey, next you'll be saying every penalty not given to us was correct as well.
Penalties could be given at nearly every tackle/play the ball - it's up to the ref to (randomly) decide whether to award one or not.