Any news on the injury? Major worry for us if he's got anything which will keep him out for even one game. Was it last week we took him off and radford said it was nothing?

That was Kelly, was subbed against Hudds, hope it's a head knock, no idea how we can cover him long term.

Washy can do a spell, but can't be expected to do as many mins as he did tonight.

When is Hadley due back, will litten get a chance off the bench.

Connor also went off injured, with Kelly and Shaul picking up knocks.

houghton definitely subbed in one of our games. maybe saints then

Not sure if he went off last week or not. Are you thinking of the Huddersfield game? Not sure how we will go if he is out. I guess Washy will play the bulk of the game there, but its alot to ask for 80 minutes out of him. Do we put faith in Litten to give us a 20 minute cameo? The other option is probably Connor to do a spell there, but that means more shuffling of the back line. Hopefully Talanoa and Carlos are back next week.

Yes, against. Hudds, Could you not understand my post

"not good" according to radford

Did he expand on "not good?"

Pretty sure he's been subbed at the kc

No

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Also alludes to some other off field issues

If it's long term, I think we will need to sign someone.

The only other option I'd be tempted with, would be Sneyd at 9, with Connor in the halfs

Hmm interesting. I wonder who he's referring to? I do get the impression hes just frustrated at the errors we are making week on week though rather than there being any real off field problems. We are really making life difficult for ourselves. If we respect the ball better we are the best team in this league imo, but we cant and wont keep winning if we carry on the way we are going.

Definately not in favour of that option. If we go down that route I think Kelly is the better option, but I don't like that idea much either. If he's going to be out for a month or something then thats fine, we can scrape by. Washbrook showed tonight that hes pretty capable at 9. Not sure we would be able to get anyone else who be any better than simply recalling Hadley. Or maybe Abdull?

I like your optimism but we've just played the best team in the league. The champions. And just nearly done us with a massively weakened side

Washy for 30 minutes each half, Litten for 10. If it's any more than a handful of weeks absence, we need to look at recalling Abdull/Hadley or coming up with a pretty sharp plan B.

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Could be weeks

Evening Tim.

Hence why I said if we cut out the errors. If we had kept the ball we would have been looking at a 30+ win. If we dont tidy up we wont keep getting away with it like we did tonight and against Saints.

And tbh once Houghton went off they werent that much more weakened than we were.

Watts and Turgut back next week - playing reserves tomorrow. Talanoa and Carlos a chance for next week.

Are you kidding

Like for like imagine hull not having these like wigan counterparts to even start the game.

Shaul-tomkins
Fonua-Burgess
Carlos- gildart=even as hulls equivalent out
Tala-manfredi=even again
Houghton-macillorum
Watts-sutton=even again
Sika-Bateman
Mini-Farrell
Ellis-o loughlin

I couldn't imagine getting within 2 points with that personal out

Why so angry? Didn't we nearly turn them over in the 8s with Logan, Fash, Downs and co in 2015?

that's why wigan always seems to have good young kids to drop in, fair play to them, but any win at wigan is still good, plus there still had some useful players on the park, 2 points and top not to bad, but we do need to tighten some things up, COYH

Don't know about Tomkins to be quite honest as he shown very little since he came back from the southern hemisphere and seems to be out injured more than on the field so hardly a miss for Wigan in all honesty.

Think losing Houghton made a massive difference defensively to us and showed as the game went on just how much his defensive work helps through the 80.

That a side if we had managed the game better by playing out our sets and kicking to the corner Wigan wouldn't have got anywhere near but we kept inviting them with daft errors and dumb rugby. We were our worst enemy in the 2nd half but got the 2 pts so as long as they learn from tonight then that can only help improve us.

I suspect Danny will be out for several weeks given the way he just left the field after the tackle he made.
You know its serious when that happens.
Lets hope he is a quick healer.

any talk of buying someone in, moving Sneyd, moving Kelly, jesus wept it's just like old days.
this is precisely what furks things up, you play your junior squad member in that role interchanged with washbrook/hadley if need be.
Surely this would be the best time to blood Litten and with everyone else in their positions plus Washy/hadley on the bench it's a natural choice to make.
I don't want Connor there, i don't want Washbrook there (except for possibly interchange), i want the lad that IS a hooker playing hooker.

Agreed. Not sure I rate Connor much on showing so far.