This week's outcomes will be interesting.

The other week both Albert Kelly and Jamie Jones Buchanan submitted EGPs to a Grade B offence.

Kelly got 1 match, but JJB got just a fine.

This week, Taylor and Ablett are both up for Grade B, so lets hope for some luck this time and just a fine for Taylor.

The fact that Sam Moa has also been called up is no consolation - if the referee had the proper grip on the game he could have settled it down before Taylor and Watts lost their heads. Yes, it was stupid of them but the ref has to bear some responsibility for his utter lack of control. Mind you with the ludicrous James Child running one touchline he was never going to get any help from there either !
The disciplinary committee don't take into account that poor refereeing inflames games, but if you ask Ganson everything in the garden is rosy.

I think Watts is a little unlucky to have a grade D charge. IMO its worthy of a charge but not a deliberate attempt to forcefully drive the ball carrier in to the floor.

Taylor did lose his head and was reckless when flying into some tackles in the second half. It might look impressive at the time (some of the big hits) but if its going to cost us with player bans its fairly pointless

JJB was a grade A offence and Kelly was grade B hence the difference.

On to Thursday and Ta'ai has already made an EGP and so will miss this game. Nothing about Taylor so far so are Hull going to risk contesting it? It will be interesting to see what Watts gets - if only we could cheat the system like Wigan do.

Moa described as a late tackle, Taylor a shoulder charge, I wonder what the outcome will be?

Personally I wouldn't have even called Moa up. It was marginally late, but had Ellis not been hurt it would have gone without a mention. Taylor should just get a warning about his technique. Watts will get 3 matches.

Agreed on all counts.

correct. however, JJB still could have got a 1 match ban as he didn't have a EGP available. what made it more strange is that he had a similar charge on record from last year (probably why there was no EGP to use). Kelly used his EGP so got a 1 match ban - however in theory with a decent previous record he could have got off with a fine. As the OP says it will be interesting with a rhinos player up again tonight, my thinking is that they will both get 1 match. i would be hopeful that hull can get watts downgraded from d to maybe b, if they can argue about the intent in the tackle, though to be fair watts has had one or two warnings about tackle technique in the last couple of seasons.

oh and to add on the other point - both moa and taylor would probabaly have got penalty sufficient a season or two ago, moa was marginally late and i've seen plenty of shoulder charges result in nothing more than a penalty.

i'm aware of the need to keep foul play in check and protect the players but feel we are in danger of going too far when it comes to discipline this year

This would be a fair outcome, although I'd like to see Watts reduced as already been punished with a sin binning.

Ablett is grade B though compared to Bateiri's grade A, so with the Leeds discount, yes you are probably right.

Fingers crossed for Watts, you know if it was a Wigan player he'd end up getting SOS.

Moa's looked worse because Ellis wasn't expecting it, it was marginal but as Ellis was injured it will get harsher treatment than if GE had just got up and played on, never really understood the logic in that but its the way it goes.
Taylors shoulder charge in isolation wasn't overly bad, never attacked the head and again would usually go without mention, the fact it looked like a bit of a 'retribution' tackle may go against him and add in he flew in numerous times in the game and seemed to have lost his head.
The Watts one I've seen worse get a minimal penalty (usually O'laughlin) but I've also seen lesser ones given a long ban. It looked more petulant than bad technique but I would expect him to get 3.

Agree with most of that but I'm not sure about the "retribution tackle." I didn't get that impression at all. Unless I'm thinking of the wrong tackle, I assumed he was being done for the one in the second half that Catalans kicked to go 14-14.

To be fair Tag did seem to be "on a mission" following Moa's late hit on Gaz Ellis.

You're probably right, I was thinking he flew in on Moa, but thinking again that one missed and it was Houghton's (legitimate) tackle that did for Moa. Taylor just seemed to be on one for most of the game.

Taylor (and Watts) both off to Red Hall tonight to get it sorted.

If either gets a ban will depend on the current flavour of the month interpretation of the rules. If it was not for the injury I would say Taylor's shoulder charge was worse than Moa's. Both tackles a little late but Moa did wrap his arm around Ellis, something that Taylor did not do. With Watts I think it was a lack of communication/understanding between tacklers rather than anything premeditated or malicious. Would not be surprised to see both get a ban but would be surprised if Watts got more that 1-2 games.

@TheRFL
.@DragonsOfficiel Sam Moa pleads not guilty & is found not guilty of a Grade B charge of Other contrary behaviour

@TheRFL
.@DragonsOfficiel Jason Baitieri pleads guilty to a Grade A charge of contact with a match official and is banned for 1 match & fined £300

Right outcome. Nothing wrong with moa's hit on ellis

watts will get 3 games and taylor 1 I think

Scott Taylor pleads not guilty and is found not guilty of a Grade B charge of Other Contrary Behaviour.

Great news!!

Watts banned for 4 games and fined £300. A chance for one of the young lads to stake a claim.

4 games. That seems quite harsh. Especially as he pleaded guilty.

Watts gets 4 matches. A bit on the harsh side imo but those tackles do need stamping out. Taylor getting nothing is good news though. I think I prefer this outcome to 3 and 1 which I'd what I thought might happen.