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| I like Abdull and I still have hope that he can become a good player for us so I want to keep tabs on him during his loan spell. I tried to go to the Rovers message board but my phone won't scroll down that far. Does anyone have the inside track on how he's doing?
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| This is what the HDM said against bradford...
Quote Jordan Abdull: Credited by coach Tim Sheens post-match for his work-ethic, Abdull made valuable metres and used his strengths wisely - albeit conceding a Bulls try through an intercepted pass. 8'"
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"I like Abdull and I still have hope that he can become a good player for us so I want to keep tabs on him during his loan spell. I tried to go to the Rovers message board but my phone won't scroll down that far. Does anyone have the inside track on how he's doing?'"
Abdulis doing fine, unlike your phone.
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| Quote ="Dudley"Abdulis doing fine, unlike your poop phone.'"
It's like it runs out of memory as it has to move past all of the teams between FC and KR. And when you get there it then filters out the link as spam. I think I need to go into the settings and Enable Junk. Also I think I need to install a new font package because any mention of Rovers is showing up as a line of dog poo emojis.
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| Quote ="ccs"This is what the HDM said against bradford...
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Abdull didn't throw an interception that led to a try. I think he's been confused with Addy.
He went well. If he deserved an 8, so did most of the team, but then we did win by a clear 30 points so not outrageous.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Abdull didn't throw an interception that led to a try. I think he's been confused with Addy.
He went well. If he deserved an 8, so did most of the team, but then we did win by a clear 30 points so not outrageous.'"
Cheers. From the pictures it seems like he is looking fit at least. That and Sheens liking him in the starting role points to him taking his time with you seriously. My big worry was that he'd not make the most of his opportunity to establish himself as well as take advantage of learning from a top coach.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"Cheers. From the pictures it seems like he is looking fit at least. That and Sheens liking him in the starting role points to him taking his time with you seriously. My big worry was that he'd not make the most of his opportunity to establish himself as well as take advantage of learning from a top coach.'"
What happens if we, or Huddersfield, play Rovers in the MPG? If Ellis is contracted to Huddersfield and Abdull to us for next season, is this a conflict of interest and do the parent club have right to recall? I'd imagine not but if I were Ellis in the MPG for Rovers against Huddersfield with a valid Huddersfield SL contract for 2018 would I really be motivated to send them down? Same situation for Abdull if we were to play them.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"What happens if we, or Huddersfield, play Rovers in the MPG? If Ellis is contracted to Huddersfield and Abdull to us for next season, is this a conflict of interest and do the parent club have right to recall? I'd imagine not but if I were Ellis in the MPG for Rovers against Huddersfield with a valid Huddersfield SL contract for 2018 would I really be motivated to send them down? Same situation for Abdull if we were to play them.'"
It will be stipulated in the loan contract.
In soccer players are usually barred from playing against their parent club. From what I've seen it is the other way around in rugby and loanees are usually permitted to play. If we meet Robbers in the MPG or more likely the CC early stages, then I guess it comes down to where Sheens thinks his loyalties lie.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"It will be stipulated in the loan contract.
In soccer players are usually barred from playing against their parent club. From what I've seen it is the other way around in rugby and loanees are usually permitted to play. If we meet Robbers in the MPG or more likely the CC early stages, then I guess it comes down to where Sheens thinks his loyalties lie.'"
It's already been agreed that both players will be able to play against there respective sides if they meet in the middle 8s
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"It's already been agreed that both players will be able to play against there respective sides if they meet in the middle 8s'"
Question on conflict of interest is an interesting one then. Ellis won't want to relegate Huddersfield in a Rovers/Huddersfield MPG with a guaranteed SL contract for 2018 already in place, unless of course Rovers put a better offer on the table. Abdull on the other hand as a Rovers fan would presumably love to send us down
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| Scored a good try today
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| Quote ="Dudley"Abdulis doing fine, unlike your poop phone.'"
Let's hope the parent Clubs don't recall your halfback partnership.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Scored a good try today'"
Other than that, how did he do? Sheens seemed pretty disappointed on the radio, was it a defensive issue with the team?
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Let's hope the parent Clubs don't recall your halfback partnership.'"
Both parent clubs don't have a recall option.
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| Quote ="moxi1"Both parent clubs don't have a recall option.'"
All three parties would have to agree to it, unless it is stipulated in the contracts. So effectively you're right, but it'd be interesting to see what happens if either team has a major injury crisis. Hopefully that won't happen though, as the players involved are getting valuable game time and experience.
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| The Fail said he was being used almost as an extra forward. I like the idea of him ending up as a ball playing 13 so at least he's getting the chance to toughen up.
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| Talking of ex players, I saw at the weekend that Brad Clavering has signed for Rovers from us, he was well thought of and played for England Academy, not sure what has happened there?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Talking of ex players, I saw at the weekend that Brad Clavering has signed for Rovers from us, he was well thought of and played for England Academy, not sure what has happened there?'"
Interesting. He looked a good prospect in the U19s and he featured in the U23s.
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"The Fail said he was being used almost as an extra forward. I like the idea of him ending up as a ball playing 13 so at least he's getting the chance to toughen up.'"
He is being used as a HB pivot but he seems to like to take the line on so I can see why they are saying he;s been used as a forward..
He's going well in a side that's still finding its feet. Ellis looks the more accomplished HB at the moment but thats to be expected given their relative experience. He looks really good when executing set moves and has good hands, but still has to work on the more off the cuff plays and have better awareness of whats around him. There were a couple of times that with the right ball a player was away but he took on the line instead.
Sheen's certainly seems to like him though so he must have seen something he likes (attitude I would assume) and that's a good sign. Will be able to better judge in 6 or so weeks when he's bedding in better.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"All three parties would have to agree to it, unless it is stipulated in the contracts. So effectively you're right, but it'd be interesting to see what happens if either team has a major injury crisis. Hopefully that won't happen though, as the players involved are getting valuable game time and experience.'"
According to Rovers when the signings were made there was no recall clause in either agreement and the loan deals are for the full season including any middle eight involvemnet. The possibility of a major injury crises at either FC or Hudds is therefore irrelevant. Some on here have questioned the commitment of the two players in they should meet their parent club in the middle eights. I think this is unlikely as I cannot see Hudds being as poor again this season and it should not be a problem for FC. In any case I do not believe either player would give less than their best in any of their games whilst with us.
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| Quote ="barham red"He is being used as a HB pivot but he seems to like to take the line on so I can see why they are saying he;s been used as a forward..
He's going well in a side that's still finding its feet. Ellis looks the more accomplished HB at the moment but thats to be expected given their relative experience. He looks really good when executing set moves and has good hands, but still has to work on the more off the cuff plays and have better awareness of whats around him. There were a couple of times that with the right ball a player was away but he took on the line instead.
Sheen's certainly seems to like him though so he must have seen something he likes (attitude I would assume) and that's a good sign. Will be able to better judge in 6 or so weeks when he's bedding in better.'"
Thanks for that. Hope it works out for him at Hull as would be good to keep him in the area. As has been said, it's a great opportunity for all parties.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"According to Rovers when the signings were made there was no recall clause in either agreement and the loan deals are for the full season including any middle eight involvemnet. The possibility of a major injury crises at either FC or Hudds is therefore irrelevant. Some on here have questioned the commitment of the two players in they should meet their parent club in the middle eights. I think this is unlikely as I cannot see Hudds being as poor again this season and it should not be a problem for FC. In any case I do not believe either player would give less than their best in any of their games whilst with us.'"
Fair enough then! Thanks for that. Hopefully it won't come to having to put themselves in that position, as you have said.
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| He's put in 2 pretty half decent performances so far for us in the league.
He's been creative, his passing and link up play has been sharp and he likes to take on the line often to good effect, especially against London.
Defensively he has been sound after his sub par showing in preseason at Leeds.
He needs to improve his kicking game as his high bombs have so far not caused any issues for the opposition and he needs eliminate his try line fever and to be less selfish after a clean break when there have been better passing options to support players.
Definitely a keeper for us on his performances to date.
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| Quote ="The Fail"Jordan Abdull: Withdrawn in the latter stages, Abdull had a see-saw performance with errors ruining his good work with ball-in-hand. 6'"
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| Quote ="C for Cuckoo"Sounded like a hard fought win in tough conditions.'"
He wasn't on his own in terms of errors, needs to learn to play what's in front of him and adapt to the conditions and not just go ahead with a set play. Poor performance by the team yesterday.
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