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| As someone on another thread has said, here we are again with Wakefield at home being a huge game which could shape our season. A good win, and we can get some confidence back ahead of a tough Easter schedule, but lose and we could really struggle.
Like him or loath him, I think we are really missing Yeamans defence on the left edge. As 'creative' as Carlos and Fetuli were in the first two games, their defensive frailties have been shown up big time. Abdull was non-existent last night, along with Sneyd. Maybe its time we give Carlos a shot at 6? We've got nothing to lose IMO. I really wanted to keep Carlos in the centres, but after a great start to the year, he's done very little.
The team I'd go with is as followed:
Shaul
Fonua (if not fit then Lancaster)
Logan
Yeaman
Tala (if not fit then Naughton)
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Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton (if not fit then ? Washy?)
Bowden
Ellis
Mini
Thompson
Frank
Manu
Washy (or Litten)
Green
The backs arent great, but I don't know what the others options are... Trying to keep positive, but slowly (yet again) its starting to drain...
This Easter is massive.
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| Can't argue with that
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| I'd get Yeaman and Stilts back and in the centres. Need to plug the hole in defence quickly. Sort the defenbce out and then worry about scoring tries again. Yes these two are past it and slow but far beeter than either centre we have been using of late.
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| The other thing I noticed is that our sliding defence is awful. To many times the centre and winger get isolated
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| Wakefield are awful, we were abject when we played them and still should have won, we scored more tries and lacked so much effort it was unreal. All that was needed was simple one up rugby to beat them and we messed that up.
Even if you matched last nights performance you'll win by 30+
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"I'd get Yeaman and Stilts back and in the centres. Need to plug the hole in defence quickly. Sort the defenbce out and then worry about scoring tries again. Yes these two are past it and slow but far beeter than either centre we have been using of late.'"
Wasn't sure if Whiting had a recall clause in his contract which is why I'd left Logan there. I think if Ellis is on that right edge then it'll give Lancaster and Logan a bit of support. Whiting could do a job though.
Wow, who'd have thought after the start to the season we had that we'd be yearning for a starting centre line up of Whiting and Yeaman!
Its still early days, and its difficult not to get sucked into knee jerk reactions, but the sooner it gets addressed, the quicker we can move on as Cas, Wigan and Widnes have all targeted the weakness.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"I'd get Yeaman and Stilts back and in the centres. Need to plug the hole in defence quickly. Sort the defenbce out and then worry about scoring tries again. Yes these two are past it and slow but far beeter than either centre we have been using of late.'"
Good enough for short term and a win against Wakey, but this the correct way long term, I would be tempted to bring back Yeaman though and move Carlos to the halfs, stick with Logan though.
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| My team
Shaul
Micheals
Logan
Yeaman
Naughton
Carlos
Sneyd
Bowden
Houghton
Taylor
Mini
Manu
Ellis
Frank
Green
Dean
Thomspon
A few lucky players there, but not convinced we have much better in reserve.
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| Quote ="Dave K."My team
Shaul
Micheals
Logan
Yeaman
Naughton
Carlos
Sneyd
Bowden
Houghton
Taylor
Mini
Manu
Ellis
Frank
Green
Dean
Thomspon
A few lucky players there, but not convinced we have much better in reserve.'"
I like the look of that team
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| Quote ="Dave K."My team
Shaul
Micheals
Logan
Yeaman
Naughton
Carlos
Sneyd
Bowden
Houghton
Taylor
Mini
Manu
Ellis
Frank
Green
Dean
Thomspon
A few lucky players there, but not convinced we have much better in reserve.'"
Bonaire isn't going to be happy with that pick.
It's a fair call though. Tuimavave looks fragile defending in the centres, and has had a few off games after starting well.
I'd agree with dropping Wattsy too. If you look at last night, we was very slow to get back to the defensive line and moving up with the rest of the team, which resulted in gaps and other players conceding penalties. Needs a kick up the .
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| Tbh I'm struggling to care about this game, which is a shame after the way we started. I'm pretty certain we'll win, but my enthusiasm for it is nil. I expect a very poor crowd.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Bonaire isn't going to be happy with that pick.
It's a fair call though. Tuimavave looks fragile defending in the centres, and has had a few off games after starting well.
I'd agree with dropping Wattsy too. If you look at last night, we was very slow to get back to the defensive line and moving up with the rest of the team, which resulted in gaps and other players conceding penalties. Needs a kick up the booty.'"
You are right we are going backwards playing Yeaman but i said on a previous thread its what Radford will do as Tiumavave will be moved to 6 which i think will suit him better as he gets his hands and foot on the ball more as he does have a good kicking game and will run the ball more than Pryce.
I would rather see Micheals moved to centre with Naughton on the wing.
Can see Dean Hadley back in the frame for Wakefield in place of Thompson.
Better interchanges needed and lets get back to offloading and support play.
Think Naughton will play whatever the changes.
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| talanoa probably wont play, concussion, so the 7 day rule will come int effect
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| Quote ="number 6"talanoa probably wont play, concussion, so the 7 day rule will come int effect'"
Thursday to Friday ?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Thursday to Friday ?'"
squad to be announced weds, so unless they get clearance to play him, can they still alter the 19 after weds?
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| Quote ="number 6"talanoa probably wont play'"
Here's hoping.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Here's hoping.'"
id like to see naughton and lancaster given a game but i fear radford will stick with the same backline
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| Be a proper low attendance at this one - low 8000s i reckon
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| I'd give them one more chance to put right a few wrongs
Shaul
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Yeamo
Lancaster or Naughton
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Fonoa would be in if he was fit of course
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| Would have green in.
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| I'd be tempted to give some of the youngsters a run out next. They can't do any worse than last night and it might give some of the more senior players a good kick up the backside. Make them realise they have to perform every week or their place in the team is at risk.
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| I think we'll end making minor tweaks to the team. I think we'll win and confidence will be partly restored ahead of the Derby.
I'm then expecting an unpredictable Derby result, with Rovers raising their game and having a stronger team than recently. Not sure which Hull team will turn up. Hopefully the one that won in France as opposed to the one that didn't turn up in Widnes.
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| I'd like to see Naughton for Michaels, and I'd also love to see Dean get a shot (neither of which will happen), but let's be honest, we've had three years of tweaking the team and nothing has worked yet, nothing will change yet again.
I never want us to lose, especially when it's a derby, but losing the next two might be the best thing for us. The more likely scenario however is that we win both unconvincingly, Radford comes out and has a go at the fans again, and then Warrington duly run 10 tries past us on Easter Monday.
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| Michael's this season's scapegoat, correct me if I,m wrong when I,'ve seen Naughton play over the last couple of seasons he,s made errors of his own , positional ,carried into touch ,knock ons, so how can you be certain swooping them would improve the team or the performance, You don,t want hull to lose but could be for the best ::: Whatever I never want us to lose no matter how Crap we are playing
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| Never want us to.lose
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