It has being reported by the club thay some fans were ejected from the stadium on Thursday due to being caught with incorrect tickets. Basically people either buying a junior/concession ticket when not entitled to. I've no doubt this has gone on for years as you can never check everyone unless you had turnstiles specifically set for kids/concessions and someone to check as they come through. Fans defrauding the club, disgraceful. www.hullfc.com/article/44242/clu ... ticket-use

It has being reported by the club thay some fans were ejected from the stadium on Thursday due to being caught with incorrect tickets. Basically people either buying a junior/concession ticket when not entitled to. I've no doubt this has gone on for years as you can never check everyone unless you had turnstiles specifically set for kids/concessions and someone to check as they come through. Fans defrauding the club, disgraceful. www.hullfc.com/article/44242/clu ... ticket-use

w@nkers. Not true fans of the club

What Jake said apart from I was gonna use a much more controversial word to describe these people. I don't really know what else to say except us true fans are quite happy to spend our money on this club because we love it. I think I speak from everyone of us when I say that our lives are basically dictated by hull fc and we don't need these scumbags who don't even care enough to just pay a few extra pounds to see a great team play the best sport. I will point out that every year I probably spend about £320-£330 on this club with the season ticket, a shirt and some other merchandise every year and I am happy to part with every single penny of it for this team! If you aren't happy to pay the full amount to get in then stop complaining and F-off!!
This has genuinely made me angry...

Unbelievable - reading some of the posts on facebook where some people are trying to justify it.

Live to your means. If you can't afford a season pass then suck it up buttercup.

I think people need to get down of there high horses on this one it's hardly crime of the century, alright it's not right what they are doing but come on we all know what people are like, everyone likes to get something for cheaper if they can and the current ticketing system that the smc have introduced lends itself to this sort of behaviour. This sort of stuff would be less likely to happen with a manned turnstile instead of a machine.

Back in 2000/01 when I was 19/20 I was quite youthful looking to the point where I almost always got asked for ID in pubs and almost all the home games I went to when I was home from sea I just used to stroll up to the boulevard turnstiles and pay as a under 18, which I think was a fiver back then. And from what stories I've heard from my dad and grandad people used to sneak into the boulevard under fences in the old days, so let's not hang these people just yet shall we.

Are you for real? Crime of the century no, but defrauding your way into watching OUR club at the honest fans and clubs expense is utterly inexcusable.
I guess you think it is okay to swap price labels on goods in the club shop right or a bit of petty shoplifting whilst in there too?
If not why do you consider fraud ok?
Hope the club makes more stringent checks and puts certain turnstiles for concession tickets only that way it'll be easier to catch the scum.

Maybe it's the fans who paid £2.50 for the Salford game just easing themselves in slowly to paying full whack.

At least they're sticking around unlike your 4000 freebies. 11,000 to 7,200 and 6,500 in the space of a fortnight doesn't give you any right to still be going on about an offer for our season members. See ya.

Its no surprise though, it was obvious people would try it on with the current system, its as annoying as the the stupid women stood around in the supermarket checking people on the self service till!!!! Get on a till love and just serve people, waste of time. Get people back in the turnstiles taking cash and tickets, simple. the amount of money the club loses on fraud tickets would pay the turnstile staff

I had to stop reading some of the responses to twitter and facebook, it was really embarrassing and shows what some people in society are like these days, trying to justify what in reality is a crime.

I do agree that SMT should put people back on turnstiles as it would stop this from happening and increase walk in supporters, you would think that would be enough to justify paying a few people to sit down and check tickets (I'm sure they would be fans who would do it for free, if it meant they could watch the games for free).

The machines used or the stewards manning the system are not that great anyway.

One match last season I was approached by a steward and asked if I was over 60. I am still a good few years off yet so I looked at him and asked "are you taking the pi$$".

He said the lights had indicated I had gone through on a concession pass even though my pass clearly stated adult. He wanted to take my pass off me and said I would have to go to the office the next day to get it back.

He could see I was getting annoyed at this point so agreed to let it go on this occasion. Thankfully it never happened again but either he misread the lights or the machine misread my pass.

This is a crime in the same way as downloading music illegally off the internet. Watching an unauthorised clip of Super League on youtube. Watching content online not intended for your country. Etc.

Yes there is a reason it's not allowed, but give it a rest. I bet every single one on here condemning it so strongly have done similar to the above. It shouldn't be done and the club should take action, but it is not as terrible as some people are suggesting.

... it's happening with city as well, it's the SMC's problem really.

I can understand people doing it for city games with Some tickets at £36 I'd be quite inclined to do it as well.

This happens with all these new electrical ways of buying things. Take buying something online, say a kid wants to buy an 18 rated dvd, as long as he uses his parents' cards then he gets away with it. I know this is nowhere near the same but take self-service in supermarkets and that thing that asks you how many bags you've used, so easy to just press none even if you've got a load. At the stadium, buy the ticket from the machine, scan it at turnstile and you're in without speaking to a single human being. Technology is not always a good thing, especially not seen as the turnstiles at south-west have broken down both home games this year... :-/

So. Do any of the above excuses make it OK?
No, they don't. The fact quite a few people think it is, speaks volumes about the fall in moral standards.

To be fair its been going on for years, its not a recent thing. As long ago as 1986 when I started working on the turnstiles at the Boulevard I had parents swearing to me their 5ft son had just turned 4 years old and so on. With the old gates at the Boulevard and the (lack of) security there wasn't a lot you could do but you can with the more modern, manned turnstiles. It was bound to happen with unmanned ticket machines, there has to be some trust. Like cc said, it is a problem for the SMC to sort out, afterall, it was them that got rid of the manned ticket office who could question and request proof of identity.

Who's said it's okay?

Not directly no, indirectly yes. If you can't read between the lines...

Not really. I think everyone agreed it's not right. We disagreed on the severity.
It seems to range from "Tut, SMC need to sort it" to "Scum, they need hanging".

No perhaps its not I agree, but doing the other things you cite although not right and in fact illegal, hardly hurt Hull FC do they? The relationship between a Club and its devoted fans is a little different to that between an owner of a TV and Sky TV. Yeh the stuff you quote hurts musicians starving artists, the RL and TV company's but in this case for a lot of people its not the legal principle of what has been done, so much as the fact that fans are doing it to swindle their Club, the team they support, who need the cash and expect people who support them to play the game, while the rest of their fellow fans stump up to support their team. Its almost I guess a matter of honour really! Just my thoughts and I am an old b*gger!

I refer you to the answer below your question.

Several people have inferred it's OK. (having seen some comments on F.B. some have admitted it).
I happen to think it isn't.

Wilf has the right of it. On the global scale of crime it hardly registers but given that the victim is the club we all support that cranks it up a few notches.

Enough people start doing it and the club takes a significant financial hit.

It's stupid how people think lowering the prices is the easiest option when it's clearly not. People don't realise that the club is a business and that businesses need to make a profit at the end of the year to survive long term. If you look at football, clubs charge £50+ for a ticket when they don't even need it, football is all about making the largest profit instead of entertainment these days, whereas Rugby is for entertainment and survival. In my eyes, the club are charging the lowest they can for adult tickets and these 'fans' that think £21-£22 is too much are narrow minded and ridiculous.

Wish some people would open their eyes and look at the wider picture before spurting out stupid comments like they have on social media.

Hang 'em High!

Totally wrong and robbing the club unnecessarily.

However, it's been going on for years. From when I started going in the 70's, you always used to see some blokes sheppardingly their kids in through the turnstile and slipping the operator something for their trouble. So both the supporter and operator were robbing the club at the same time.

Also used to go to City at Boothferry Park and see 18 year olds trying to kid their way through that they were U14. They'd often get found out that when they couldn't quite make up their Date of Birth.

Worst case I've seen was also at Boothferry Park, was when three lads (one used to go to our school), used to take it in turns to sit in a wheel chair each game, while the other two pushed them round to DIY disabled shelter they'd put up in front of the SE terrace. By the end of the season most of the South Stand had clocked on to it and it became part of the pre-match entertainment. No light shows in those days!